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Is there a programming language specifically designed for interacting with SQL databases? (lemmy.one)

submitted 7 months ago by veer66@lemmy.one to c/sql@programming.dev

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Is there a programming language specifically designed for interacting with SQL databases that avoids the need for Object-Relational Mappers (ORMs) to solve impedance mismatch from the start?

If such a language exists, would it be a viable alternative to PHP or Go for a web backend project?

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[–] echindod@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Everyone else has more experience than I, and I am not sure these are exactly the kinds of answers you are looking for...but the two things I have thought is using something like PL/SQL and stored procedures, so much of your backend logic is removed from the server and set into the database itself. Not exactly what you are looking for I think, and it has problems of its own.

Second, Prolog is a great query language (from what I am told) and capable of running a server. TerminusDB runs their server in prolog, and also postgres has a prolog implementation. It would be interesting to play with these things, but they may not exactly be what you are looking for.

[–] veer66@lemmy.one 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Stored procedure and Datalog are not what I'm looking for. However, I should consider them seriously, since they may be more practical.

[–] echindod@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am not as familiar with RDBMs internals, but you could also build your server in the database. Right now, I am building a server client of sorts with Oxigraph. I have a store object that I am manipulating directly with rust code. It is an option. However its not going to be very flexible, and it does complicate the sanitization issues.

Also, prolog is a complete language, very capable of running the server. I don't know what kind of architecture you are thinking of and having the distinction between datalog on the database and prolog in the server might be problematic. Also, I may be projecting a little. I wish I could be using prolog. But alas.

[–] veer66@lemmy.one 2 points 7 months ago

I don’t know what kind of architecture you are thinking of and having the distinction between datalog on the database and prolog in the server might be problematic.

I thought about Datomic and Clojure.