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    [–] joshfaulkner@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    Honest question - what about these are skeuomorphic? I mean, I know that the Save button icon being a floppy disk is skeuomorphic because we don't save our files on floppies anymore, but what about these are no longer necessary to the concept?

    [–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Skeuomorphic means designed to mimic a real life counterpart it has nothing to do with being obsolete

    [–] Pantherina@feddit.de 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    A skeuomorph is a derivative object that retains ornamental design cues (attributes) from structures that were necessary in the original.[3] Skeuomorphs are typically used to make something new feel familiar in an effort to speed understanding and acclimation. They employ elements that, while essential to the original object, serve no pragmatic purpose in the new system.

    (Wikipedia)

    I dont think these logos are skeuomorph either

    [–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, this means for example using a Pen as a writing icon. You do not need a pen, to write on a computer.

    This just means that they're similar, it's something else when it comes to obsolescence like floppies. The goal is to design it in such a way that it's an analogue to some familiar counterpart.

    This is in contrast to more abstract design patterns

    [–] Pantherina@feddit.de 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    Lets collect random symbols like that

    (These are only in Android, keepassdx and jerboah)

    • floppy: save
    • pen: edit
    • chain: link
    • globe: internet
    • sizzor: cut
    • notepad: paste/clipboard
    • studio mic: audio
    • trashcan: delete
    • airplane: antennas off
    • radio cell: hotspot, wifi
    • metal bell: message
    • server rack: storage
    • speaker: sound
    • sun: brightness
    • key: encryption, vpn
    • lock: encrypted / needs permission escalation
    • unlock: decrypted, readable by current user
    • folder: directory
    • folder with zipper: archive
    • house: home dir, launcher, main view
    • clothes pin: attached file
    • letter: email
    • gear: configuration
    • magnifying glass: search
    • laboratory glass: experiment
    • picture with mountain or sunflower: gallery

    Some more

    [–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I tried to search for it and found nothing, so I've to ask.

    Why on earth we use mountain symbol for gallery/images ?

    [–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

    Found nothing too. Its an impressive scenery

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

    Some devs of yore considered using another icon for save. A piggy bank. The idea was considered for a while, and was finally scrapped in favour of the traditional floppy.

    This was in an old version of word apparently. Assuming that the story is authentic.

    [–] joshfaulkner@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Though I agree that skeuomorphs are generally concrete rather than abstract representations, ignoring the obsolescence aspect means that almost any design element that looks like a concrete object (however stylized it may be) would then be a skeuomorph, right?

    Your camera app icon that looks like a camera lens - skeuomorph? I'd say no because cameras still have lenses.

    When you use your camera app and your phone speaker plays a sound that mimics an SLR shutter clicking even though your phone's camera doesn't use a shutter curtain - skeuomorph? Yes, it mimics something familiar from a previous design no longer necessary in the current design.

    I am a bit of a word nerd and recognize that words can change in meaning over time, but I've always understood skeuomorph to be in line with my usage. Can anyone point me to an alternate definition?

    [–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Read this

    https://thoughtbot.com/blog/abstraction-vs-skeuomorphism

    If the user interface of a camera app is designed like a real life camera, it's skeuomorphic, but most phone camera apps are completely abstract