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[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Agreed. Exactly why we need to listen to these marginalized communities, and empower them to take action on our behalf and with our cooperation. It’s why no matter how good I think my ideas are, I try to recognize that I come from a position of relative privilege, and that it is likely that even my best of ideas will be lacking in intersectional analysis that is needed to develop real, powerful solutions.

[–] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we need to listen to these marginalized communities.

Dude... Why are you speaking as if you're not indigenous now?

and that it is likely that even my best of ideas will be lacking in intersectional analysis that is needed to develop real, powerful solutions.

It turns out the solution to global warming was friendship all along 🌈

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because I’m relatively privileged and live the imperial core, and thus am not marginalized nearly as much as others, and in fact have a wide array of privileges more than most in marginalized communities. The ones coming up with truly radical, meaningful, workable solutions will be from groups more marginalized than I.

[–] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The ones coming up with truly radical, meaningful, workable solutions will be from groups more marginalized than I.

Based on what?

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that they already have significantly better outcomes in terms of land stewardship compared to dominant groups.

The fact that only those in a marginalized community will be able to effectively understand and create policy that addresses marginalization in meaningful ways.

The fact that nearly every truly meaningful radical idea has already come out of marginalized groups, and will, by all available evidence, continue to do so.

[–] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that they already have significantly better outcomes in terms of land stewardship compared to dominant groups.

Generalizations suck. Over 80% of Canada is undeveloped. And just aside from that, our ecological issues are far greater then land stewardship.

The fact that only those in a marginalized community will be able to effectively understand and create policy that addresses marginalization in meaningful ways.

I don't see how this is relevant.

The fact that nearly every truly meaningful radical idea has already come out of marginalized groups, and will, by all available evidence, continue to do so.

Oh really? EVERY truly meaningful radical idea has come out of marginalized groups? You're telling me white people haven't contributed at all? Seriously.. That's the position you're taking.

Ultimately my problem with everything you're saying is it's rooted in racism. I can't support that shit.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 1 points 1 year ago

No, it would be you positing that white people cannot be marginalized, not me.