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[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Yo, write better titles. I thought this was a video about how they didn't want to upgrade to Android 15 or something. But it's not. It's just about not buying a new phone every two years πŸ˜† In my opinion buying a new replacement isn't 'upgrading'.

[–] hannes3120@feddit.de 12 points 7 months ago

Buying a new replacement totally is upgrading though.

That's why it's so rare to find phones with easily changeable batteries as most phones are like new if you just replace that.

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Personally, although the terms have become increasingly blurred over the years, I refer to changing to a new version of software (including an OS, and both ideally with some improvements) as updating it rather than upgrading.

I reserve upgrade more for changes of hardware with some form of improvement over its predecessor. I'd suspect I may not be alone in this, but I dunno how common it may be. When switching to a mix of both, I simply say I'm getting a new [insert specific device depending on which].

Although I'd hesitate to call many new phones an all-around upgrade when they're either removing features (headphone jack/expandable storage) or getting more cumbersome to hold (can you even call some modern phones a handset anymore?).

[–] ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago

I agree with your terminology - updating is for often small incremental software patches.

Upgrade would be a complete program overhaul, or more commonly in my use of it, a change to a newer, better physical product.

[–] maniel@beehaw.org 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Difference between updating and upgrading

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Why I refuse to upgrade to a new phone - 8 minutes video explaining why it's not that interesting to ~~upgrade~~ buy new phones nowadays

I think that'd fit better.

But you all made me look it up on Wikipedia: "Upgrading is the process of replacing a product with a newer version of the same product. In computing and consumer electronics an upgrade is generally a replacement of hardware, software or firmware with a newer or better version, in order to bring the system up to date or to improve its characteristics."

I'm confused. Maybe because so many people use those terms wrongly. And I suspected them doing that. But I think I'd still like to refuse using the same term for describing upgrading a computer with an additional $35 RAM stick and buying a new $2.500 gaming rig.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You upgrade your phone when you can no longer use the previous one. What other reason would there be? They're all the same anyway.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

10+ years ago, it was very common to get an upgrade to your phone ever two years (or less). And at the time, there was a lot more variability in phones. And I mean in more than just battery life, storage capacity, camera quality, processor, etc. There used to be a variety of form factors to consider, sizes, genuinely different features and functionalities. The iPhone came about in 2009, and other smart phones soon followed, but even then there were still phones with physical keyboards, digital keyboards with stylus typing, flip phones, etc. Once smart phones completely dominated the market and all the manufacturers started just copying each other's features and designs, eventually we got to the status quo of today where they're all essentially the same. The only major difference now is the OS, and that's largely just down to iOS vs Android.

[–] infinitepcg@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

That's kind of the point. There was a time in the 2010s when each new device could do something that they couldn't previously do. But it seems like the market has figured out what people want from their phones and that's what they are getting now.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm still on 13 just because I didn't see any point to upgrade.

I mean, I don't see the point in not upgrading when your device supports it. The interface pretty much stays the same at this point, and they usually do improve on security, and other background stuff.