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Challenge others opinions and be challenged on your own.

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Calls for defederation - Is the idea of the open marketplace of ideas outdated? (sh.itjust.works)
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Lately I see a lot of calls do have specific instances defederated for a particular subset of reasons:

  • Don't like their content
  • Dont like their political leaning
  • Dont like their free speech approach
  • General feeling of being offended
  • I want a safe space!
  • This instance if hurting vulnerable people

I personally find each and every one of these arguments invalid. Everybody has the right to live in an echo chamber, but mandating it for everyone else is something that goes a bit too far.

Has humanity really developed into a situation where words and thoughts are more hurtful than sticks and stones?

Edit: Original context https://slrpnk.net/post/554148

Controversial topic, feel free to discuss!

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[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

I would really advise you to go read Frederick Brennan's thoughts and watch his interviews etc. I think he will address a lot of your questions. He is also the perfect person to make the arguments because:

  • he was a handicapped youth who HATED having others protect him from content, he wanted to know what people REALLY thought, would have agreed with the most extreme people here 100% in his youth
  • he actually undertook making the idea real, while fully wanting it to succeed
  • as a result, he was forced to engage with the reality of these ideas most of us just discuss
  • his first person experience taught him lessons about this that we can all learn from, without repeating the same mistakes