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Controversial - the community to discuss controversial topics.

Challenge others opinions and be challenged on your own.

This is not a safe space nor an echo-chamber, you come here to discuss in a civilized way, no flaming, no insults!

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, "trust me bro" is not a valid argument.

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Calls for defederation - Is the idea of the open marketplace of ideas outdated? (sh.itjust.works)
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Lately I see a lot of calls do have specific instances defederated for a particular subset of reasons:

  • Don't like their content
  • Dont like their political leaning
  • Dont like their free speech approach
  • General feeling of being offended
  • I want a safe space!
  • This instance if hurting vulnerable people

I personally find each and every one of these arguments invalid. Everybody has the right to live in an echo chamber, but mandating it for everyone else is something that goes a bit too far.

Has humanity really developed into a situation where words and thoughts are more hurtful than sticks and stones?

Edit: Original context https://slrpnk.net/post/554148

Controversial topic, feel free to discuss!

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[–] pattmayne@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're in a bar that you DO like, and the other patrons are discussing how to coordinate themselves, then obviously you would take part in that conversation.

And during that conversation, if a small subgroup constantly told you to "leave if you disagree," then you might kindly suggest that they do the same, which would definitely not get you kicked out of the bar.

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Very true, a civilized disagreement can certainly present that way. If that’s what I stumbled into I’d apologize for suggesting it was something else, maybe the level of discourse from related comment strings had me assuming the worse.