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[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 months ago (6 children)

this makes me suspect even more it has been incited by russia as a distraction. i mean the situation was messed up in israel/palestine for like 80 years, but suddenly when russia has problems invading a country, it escalates. coincidence? i doubt it.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago

I mean Iran is Russia's link to this shit, and Iran has been distancing the fuck out of their relationship with Hamas since the attack, which implies Hamas jumped the gun, which implies Iran doesn't have as much control over them as they'd like, which means Russia would have even less ability to direct the action.

[–] Wooster@startrek.website 4 points 8 months ago

Mmm. Did Russia even need to incite it, or just toss gasoline on the flames that are already burning?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I doubt it, because their vote doesn't indicate that Russia or China want to avoid a ceasefire. Russia and China both know that the US would vote against it anyway, which means that their vote won't alter the situation anyway, so both Russia and China are free to vote in whatever way they think is most politically-appealing; their vote is decoupled from what they want to happen.

You could say that it's surprising that they wanted the political appearance of opposing a ceasefire, though. I don't know what considerations factor into that.

EDIT: Oh, wait, this is one that the US proposed, so it's probably on terms that Israel would accept.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Suddenly? War had been going for quite some time at the moment of Hamas attack.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 0 points 7 months ago

The goal is to weaken west by causing conflict and division.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Has a lot more to do with the brutal occupation.

Both the official reasons and expert analysis don't suggest that this escalation has anything to do with Russia.