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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

their work culture looks like hell

[–] AshLassay@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

American work culture isn’t that different. Long hours and barely any vacation days. Only pay is better in the US.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

what's the legal minimum vacation days in jobs in the U.S.? here in the UK we get around 28 days a year

There is no federal vacation requirement. The fed doesn’t even require breaks. It defines what is/isn’t considered vacation, sick time, breaks, etc… But it doesn’t actually impose any requirements for those things. It simply defines what employers must do if they choose to provide those things. And lots of states essentially just went “We don’t want to make any labor laws of our own because that would be communism, so just follow whatever the fed says.” So lots of states have basically zero requirements for things like breaks or vacation/sick/personal time.

Lots of national companies will impose company policies to follow whatever the strictest state requirement is. Simply so they don’t have to deal with training managers differently in those more protected states; They can simply create one training manual for the entire company. So employees in those unprotected states still usually get things like breaks or vacation simply due to company policy. But that doesn’t mean they’re legally entitled to those things, it simply means the company doesn’t want to get Department of Labor complaints in the more protected states.

[–] webPunk@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As far as I'm aware, there is no federal law regulating paid vacation minimums. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average number of paid vacation days per year is 11. I think that some states require some minimum, but that's about it.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

0 (zero). No, that’s not a joke. Yes, I’m serious.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait till you hear how much mandatory paid maternal/paternal leave they're 'entitled' to. I'll save you the time, also zero. But at least they get 12 weeks, unpaid.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this shit feels like a human rights violation

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should check out their healthcare system, $50 to hold their new born baby for skin to skin contact.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I could go on, but it starts to get sad.

Seriously - at least Japanese people go out to drink and bitch about it. Americans fucking flex on how much more they work than 40h a week like it’s something to be proud of.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So does US work culture to me. Not as dystopian as the Japanese one, but not too far off.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah tipping culture and some establishments in the US justifying low pay because of it is pretty bad there

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd start with "sick days" and "holiday" being the same mostly and seen as "benefits".

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Norgur@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many companies count any day you aren't at work as "paid time off", so if you're sick (or have given birth the other day and have the audacity not to show up for your shift immediately), those days are being deducted from your holiday budget until that has run out. Then, your sick days are just unpaid and that's that.

Furthermore, there is no mandatory amount of such days that I know of.

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

every company I’ve worked for has a separate pool for each. The usually has been maybe ~5 sick days and 1-4 weeks of vacation based on seniority. The issue is for anything worse than say one good cold a year those sick days aren’t good for much so you either have to use vacation to cover the gap or just lose pay. Things like pregnancy you get Fmla time but that is unpaid so you either burn vacation days or just don’t get paid for say post pregnancy recovery or cancer treatments etc. any European countries in desperate need of truck dispatchers?

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

See? That's effed up! I got 44 holidays and can get paid sick leave for up to 6 weeks in a row if needed (Germany).
Try the UK, they had some issues with trucking after Brexit.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, it's pretty bad. It's changing though, just slowly.