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Don't get me wrong. I love Linux and FOSS. I have been using and installing distros on my own since I was 12. Now that I'm working in tech-related positions, after the Reddit migration happened, etc. I recovered my interest in all the Linux environment. I use Ubuntu as my main operating system in my Desktop, but I always end up feeling very limited. There's always software I can't use properly (and not just Windows stuff), some stuff badly configured with weird error messages... last time I was not able to even use the apt command. Sometimes I lack time and energy for troubleshooting and sometimes I just fail at it.

I usually end up in need of redoing a fresh install until it breaks up again. Maybe Linux is not good for beginners working full time? Maybe we should do something like that Cisco course that teaches you the basic commands?

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[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is oft repeated but is short sighted, it is NOT that people do not want to think, it is that they don’t have the time and energy to constantly fight their devices to perform simple tasks.

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That's exactly why I love Linux and hate Windows. Try something simple in Windows like setting custom keyboard shortcuts... insanely frustrating. I'm not sure you can even do it without 3rd party apps, but in Linux I can do it in 10 seconds.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On the flip side try to get Linux to play back audio at above 48,000 Hz without breaking absolutely everything that isn’t already at the desired sample rate.

In Windows it is 5 clicks.

[–] aski3252@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The few times a have some minor issue on linux, it is probably audio related or related to working with multiple different screens with different refresh rates, resolutions, etc, so you probably have a point.

However, I did have various issues with audio and multiple screens on windows as well, I would say even more frequently. However, on windows those issues were generally resolved after a restart, on linux I actually had to do some troubleshooting.

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Try and get the Focusrite Solo at 48k with Windows without using the awful software that comes with it, in Linux it's literally plug and play. It goes both ways, that's what Windows plebs don't understand. All the issues Windows plebs complain about in Linux, are also present in Windows: driver issues, updates breaking userspace, etc.

Those are common problems. What is not common is the complete lack of control and customization, the ads and telemetry data, and the dogshit workflows that Windows offers.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Attacking people because there are valid criticisms of Linux, which you haven’t refuted at all, shows how utterly stupid you are.

Yes there are valid criticisms of Windows. No that does not give you a pass to attack people who use it, they have made their own choice.

One device, which you admit works with the correct drivers, doesn’t remotely compare to a glaring flaw with audio that I can find first mentioned in 2002 still impacting Linux today.

[–] meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It goes both ways, that’s what Windows plebs don’t understand. All the issues Windows plebs …

Does it make you a patrician to use Linux? Are you a father figure now to society?

We plebeians are just waiting on your glory to shine upon us, o high one.

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are you offended that I am calling your knowledge into question over invalid criticisms? Instead of being offended, maybe take the time and learn from it. At the end of the day, if you want an extremely limited OS that spies on you, it's your life... but maybe you should reconsider participating in a Linux sublem.

[–] meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calling anybody a pleb means everything you say is discounted. You have an arrogance that’s wildly unhinged.

I wish you luck, o wise patrician. May the glory of Rome shine forever upon you.

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think deep down, this comment has is more true than not for the likes of you, and it's insecure users that lash out at this realization. It really sounds like you're projecting your insecurities around some type of superiority complex because you fail to measure up. You can deflect all you want, but I see you... your lack of honest debate and your deflections and projections... and it's honestly, pathetic. Let me give you some advice; try to be a better person.

P.S. And quit being such a fragile little bitch, you're offended by the term Windows pleb... that's the type of person you are, you might want to consider that, just saying.

[–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try something simple in Windows like setting custom keyboard shortcuts… insanely frustrating.

You can set macro's under Mouse and Keyboard center (though only in win11, welcome to 1995 Microsoft!) You can set a keyboard shortcut for a program under a shortcut's properties (since at least a couple of editions ago).

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can you change Alt+tab and other defaults? Because I'm talking about the ability to fully customize all keyboard shortcuts. I can make my laptop sing for you without lifting my hands from the keyboard, and anytime I boot into Windows I feel like I'm weighted down with 80lb sandbags.

[–] vaidooryam@mastodon.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

@somedaysoon @Cypher MS powertools allows some of those stuff, though not nearly as well. AHK is every easy to setup and get into even compared to some of the linux equivalents.

It goes either ways and one needs to find the way to make it work on either system. Often she exact same approach might not work in both.

[–] aski3252@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

it is that they don’t have the time and energy to constantly fight their devices to perform simple tasks.

Nobody wants to constantly fight their devices to perform simple tasks, but that's exactly the reason why I almost exclusively use linux and get incredibly annoyed when I have to use windows (for business reasons)..

Sure, linux based systems often take up more time until you find the right system for your needs and for your hardware, you will have some effort to find alternatives to some software that you might be used to and depending on what software you need, linux just won't be an option for you, but once that everything is set up, at least in my personal experience, things run a lot more consistently and expectedly in my personal experience.

Maybe it's just me, maybe I'm just lucky, but I have been using linux exclusively for about 3 years now on a desktop, multiple laptops and obviously servers. Have I experienced any issues? Yes, there were small issues from time to time, but nothing that I would not have with windows. But in terms of day to day operations and performing basic tasks, linux has been the superior user experience for me without a doubt.

I used to believe that linux is great for servers, and sucks for desktops and laptops, but ever since I made the switch, I have completely changed my mind. I still use windows because I have to, but the most annoying part of switching to linux was that windows has become even more annoying to use.