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[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is incorrect; take it directly from the movie's editor, Eddie Hamilton ACE, on how the VFX CGIs were done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE1pOMpQvbw You can see at the 4 minutes mark where the actual jets in the movie were just stand ins, and VFX artists are told to use CGI to reskin them with the jets in the final movie.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

That is the Russian and F-14. I already acknowledged those two were CGI. We don't have access to an SU-57, and they are not flying F-14 anymore.

The F-18 are real planes with the send seat edited out.

[–] koberulz@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Stop posting youtube. I don't watch youtube.

I posted an article that states clearly they flew the planes. Read it and stop posting youtube.

[–] koberulz@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Video evidence is far more convincing than someone's say-so.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

In a comment thread about CGI and VFX, you really want to talk about how accurate the video is?

[–] kokopelli@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Well, if that’s how you win an argument, I don’t read IGN.

But for those who are curious, in the first posted video he talks about a timeline walkthrough that the editor did. All the jets are CGI covers over F-14s painted grey with lighting markers, except the F-18s. HOWEVER, there were only ever 1 or 2 F-18s in the air, so when you see a squadron of them, the others are CGI.

So yes, there were some real jets, but that wasn’t the argument you made. You said the film was done practically, which is not true. Even if you have 2/4 jets really in the air, that’s not “practical” and still counts as CGI.

And I can see where you got this opinion, the news outlets at the time and all interviews spouted “NO CGI!!” Because it is good marketing, but it’s not true.