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[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 90 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This feels like a hasty "solution" to an invented "problem". Sure, Wikipedia isn't squeaky clean, but it's pretty damn good for something that people have been freely adding knowledge to for decades. The cherry-picked examples of what makes Wikipedia " bad" are really not outrageous enough to create something even more niche than Wikia, Fandom, or the late Encyclopedia Dramatica. I appreciate the thought, but federation is not a silver bullet for everything. Don't glorify federation the way cryptobros glorify the block chain as the answer to all the problems of the world.

[–] jeremyparker@programming.dev 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

So you're saying you want a federated wiki that uses a blockchain??? Genius.

Kidding aside, you're absolutely right. Wikipedia is one of the very few if not ONLY examples of centralized tech that ISN'T absolute toxic garbage. Is it perfect? No. From what I understand, humans are involved in it, so, no, it's not perfect.

If you want to federate some big ol toxic shit hole, Amazon, Netflix, any of Google's many spywares -- there's loads of way more shitty things we would benefit from ditching.


Edit: the "federated Netflix" -- I know it sounds weird, but I actually think it would be really cool. Think of it more like Nebula+YouTube: "anyone" (anyone federated with other instances) can "upload" videos, and subcription fees go mostly to the creator with a little going to The Federation. Idk the payment details, that would be hard, but no one said beating Netflix would be easy.

And federated Amazon -- that seems like fish in a barrel, or low hanging fruit, whichever you prefer. Complicated and probably a lot more overhead, but not conceptually challenging.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Federated Netflix? We already have federated YouTube, it's called PeerTube

[–] jeremyparker@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah I was thinking more of a paid service, I guess more like Nebula then Netflix, since Netflix just shows TV shows and movies made by big companies. I don't mind paying for things if they're good things, and I know the right people are getting the money for it.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There's a wiki program that natively uses a version control repository, Fossil. You can fork a Fossil wiki and contribute updates back to the original.

It wouldn't be too hard to for example create a few Fossil repositories for different topics where the admins on each are subject matter experts (to ensure quality of contributions), and then have a client which connects to them all and with a scheme for cross linking between them

Peertube already exists for video, it's more like a different take on bittorrent.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

I've just realised that I independently came up with the idea for federated services while imagining how to make yt better over 5 years ago.

Cool!

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It only gets corrupted by state department interests if it gets popular, so we must work to make it less popular! (edit: I hope its obvious this is a joke)

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I mean we have seen how the Lemmy devs approach certain topics, and it is definitely not with a preference for openness or free exchange of ideas. There are certain topics here which have a hair trigger for content removal and bans, for extremely petty and minor "transgressions," so the motivation here seems pretty transparent.