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[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 171 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

They even stated the correct reason to wear a mask: to trap the germs against my face, so others don't get infected

It's like they don't compute the idea behind it, it stops at me me me

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 8 months ago (3 children)

My favorite reply to them is that it's America and I can do whatever I want, I'll call them snowflakes too whenever appropriate. They get pissed when you insinuate they're anti American lul.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

Well, it's only fair, seeing as they ARE anti-American.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

i've just recently seen the same with pro 2a people. It was on a video about inclusive gun safety training, because the 2a is quite literally, for everyone. SO many people in the comments were saying something along the lines of "well if we trained them, then they might kill us"

Yeah no shit. What do you think they thought of you prior to this moment huh? Just utter fucking ignorance for anything more than a mere shred of intellectual thought being put into whatever they say. Not to mention that this is borderline authoritarian policy by nature but that's the other funny part.

[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Didn't gun control ramp up when the Black Panthers started exercising their rights to bear arms? Funny thing is the Panthers seem much more like a "well-regulated militia" than this Wild West, permitless carry, anything goes BS.

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

exactly. gun control only started when minorities started exercising their right to bear arms. The right don’t want gun control laws until the groups they are trying to oppress start exercising their second amendment rights.

i mean, that's also perfectly legal under 2A, 90% of the time gun control is related to regulation in regards to owning, rather than the ability to the own it period. Which is another argument all together tbh.

I wouldnt know much about the specifics of that group though, only that it has to do with civil rights from memory lol.

[–] Dagrothus@reddthat.com 9 points 8 months ago

John Stewart's latest show did a great job pointing this out. "Pro-constitution" redco- hats supporting a dictatorship and ignoring the fundamentals of the constitution.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Someone once told me that the box in which masks came in says "doesn't protect from viruses", as if it was hidden-in-plain-sight proof that masks don't work.

Yeah, they don't protect the user from viruses, they protect other people. The box is technically correct, Patricia, there is no conspiracy here.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is humorous that these people think that they have some secret knowledge that only they know and they feel so much power because of it. Except that the information they know is incorrect and they just end up looking like an idiot.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not in their own minds, and that is all that matters. Also not to their church members, sadly:-(.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Perception is reality and they cannot perceive a reality in which they aren't always correct.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 8 months ago

I mean, I would not say that it is reality, just that they act like it is - except even that much is not true, b/c when they get REALLY sick, they finally show up at a hospital begging to be saved. So even they know, deep down, where the medicine is at. Cognitive dissonance is a horrific, terrible thing:-(.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

.... Which masks? N95 will totally filter viruses, no?

[–] drengbarazi@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They will, but you have to follow some protocols, like not having beard where the masks is supposed to seal around your face, not using it more than ~3 times (iirc), not trying to clean it (just let it rest for some days on a clean surface) and etc.

Basically always seal testing.

Also, iirc the N stands for not oil resistant, so any oil staining ruins it. I'd guess that includes sneezing on it.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Not to mention skin is chock full of oils

[–] hannes3120@feddit.de 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think they actually do understand but don't have enough empathy with other people to see it as their responsibility to protect other people from their viruses.

Not that someone as perfect as them would ever sick enough to potentially infect others...

[–] FilterItOut@thelemmy.club 10 points 8 months ago

This. So much of this. I can't even convince family members to not go and socialize with dozens of others while they are sick! Five years ago, I would have bet my life's savings and every appendage I have that I would get the correct answer if I asked someone whether illnesses spread through contact with or being near a sick person.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Claims are not evaluated, in the loyalist worldview. They're not arguments. They're slogans. You shuffle your cards and say whatever might justify the ingroup being fundamentally superior to the outgroup. Because of course, it is impossible for someone to simply be wrong. That would require evaluating claims. No: truth is dictated by people above you. They must be right and smart and handsome, or they wouldn't be above you. Any challenge, any criticism, any disagreement, is a personal attack. You are calling someone lesser.

And I say "you" because these people think this is all we're doing. They think that's all there is. It's reality as a team sport.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Or, more likely, they're selfish jerks who don't care about anyone else. "The greater good? What's that?"