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To buy no longer means anything :( (youtu.be)

submitted 8 months ago by matmarspace@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world

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I’ve just watched the video. I find it pretty outrageous. The word about it should spread.

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[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You mean before or after all the sites updated their ToS it so that they were legally in the clear to sell user posts to AI training companies?

The ToSes would generally have a blanket permission in them to license the data to third-party companies and whatnot. I went back through historical Reddit ToS versions a little while back and that was in there from the start.

Also in there was a clause allowing them to update their ToS, so even if the blanket permission wasn't there then it is now and you agreed to that too.

Learning from things is a very obviously a completely different process to feeding data into a server farm.

It is not very obviously different, as evidenced by the fact that it's still being argued. There are some legal cases before the courts that will clarify this in various jurisdictions but I'm not expecting them to rule against analysis of public data.

[–] rutellthesinful@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you agreed to that too

you know that a company putting a thing in their terms of service doesn't make it legally binding, right?

hence why they all suddenly felt the need to update their terms of services

It is not very obviously different, as evidenced by the fact that it's still being argued

people continuing to use a bad argument doesn't make it a good one

I'm not expecting them to rule against analysis of public data

tell me you haven't followed anything about this conversation without telling me you haven't followed anything about this conversation

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you know that a company putting a thing in their terms of service doesn't make it legally binding, right?

And you know that doesn't necessarily imply the reverse? Granting a site a license to use the stuff you post there is a pretty basic and reasonable thing to agree to in exchange for them letting you post stuff there in the first place.

hence why they all suddenly felt the need to update their terms of services

As others have been pointing out to you in this thread, that also is not a sign that the previous ToS didn't cover this. They're just being clearer about what they can do.

Go ahead and refrain from using their services if you don't agree to the terms under which they're offering those services. Nobody's forcing you.

[–] rutellthesinful@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

companies don't update legal documents for fun

you're also continuing to pointedly ignore what this conversation is actually about, so i'm guessing you don't really have anything relevant to say in response