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[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't have to provide evidence because I am not the one making assertions.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You literally are making assertions.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

there has been reported increased decoupling following covid.

debate-me-debate-me e

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am not asserting there is decoupling. There is reported decoupling and I'm asking for a counter perspective. This really isn't that hard.

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

post a link to this “reported decoupling”. a link with data, not speculation. the users above provided data of a trend of increased reliance on China for manufacturing inputs. if you have data that indicates the trend has reversed, show it to us. otherwise, you are just mindlessly guessing

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Bro, do you understand what a request for information is, or is everything a debate to you?

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

dont "bro" me. also ur the one being a debate pedant. users gave data about trade with China. then you made a claim that there was "reported decoupling" but didnt provide evidence. not only did you not provide evidence for decoupling, you didnt even provide evidence for the supposed reports. arguing in bad faith is against CoC. so stop being a debate pervert, stop arguing for the sake of arguing, and stop assuming you dont have to support your claims

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

a lot has fundamentally changed in the last 5 years.

I said that there is reported decoupling.

I am not the one making assertions.

Why are you like this? debate-me-debate-me

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am not asserting decoupling. I am saying that I have been told there is decoupling by others and I'm asking for a counter perspective. This really isn't that hard.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You said that there has been reported decoupling. That is an assertion. The fact that you are trying to worm your way out of it by way of semantics is just sad.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Here is an example of this reporting: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-22/what-is-us-china-decoupling-and-how-is-it-happening

TO BE CLEAR I AM NOT I AGREEMENT WITH THIS LINK. I AM NOT TAKING A POSITION ON THIS MATTER. I AM ONLY REQUESTING AN ALTERNATIVE VIEWPOINT BECAUSE I WANT TO BE INFORMED. THIS IS NOT A DEBATE.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good on you, you were able to post an article. Why did we have to go thru so much tooth pulling to get here?

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because i am not advocating for a position. You can Google it yourself dude.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You are now again trying to worm your way out. No one has said you are advocating for a position. You made assertions and you maintained you had not made any. You maintained you did not have anything to share, nor did you have to share anything. You are now trying to make it into seeming as if the disagreement was one of misunderstanding, where it was believed you held these positions, which you now claim you do not. this is worm behaviour.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

No moron, you think you're in a debate because youre a keyboard warrior going aggro at the slightest interrupt of your circle jerk.

The only "assertion" I've made is that there has been reporting that there is decoupling between China and the US economies. And this is true! There is reporting! I'm not even claiming the reporting is correct, I've only requested alternative perspectives with evidence! That is all.

I have been very clear and up front from the beginning. You however are a dog chasing parked cars.

The issue is not a misunderstanding. It's you being an idiot.

I have not taken a stance anywhere in this thread about whether or not China and the US are decoupling. If this was otherwise you could prove it with a quote. But you can't. Because you're trying to fight someone who isn't interested in a debate. Idiot.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Buddy we're not in a debate. You lied and you kept pretending to not have lied, which I held you to. You then finally did the bare minimum and I asked why it had to be such a task for you to do the bare minimum.
I didn't read the rest of your response because it's clear you're trying to fabricate situations and discussions out of thin air for which I have no interest. You were doing wormy debatelord shit and you are trying to do wormy debatelord shit. Eat dirt.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm literally the one saying this isn't a debate, dude.

I didn't lie. You're just an idiot.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You straight made assertions, said you didn't make assertions, got told you did, asked to be quoted, got quoted, and started insisting we were having a debate (by way of insisting that you were not interested in having a debate, thereby implying we were having one) about the assertion YOU MADE and struggled so hard to not post a single piece of proof of existing. When you finally share a single article you start talking about not having a debate, as if we've at any point discussed anything but the fact that you are acting as a debatelord.
We haven't at any point talked about the assertion itself, merely the fact that you keep making them and somehow you feels as if you don't. After finally doing the bare minimum which you ask of others, you try to make it out to be as if something else is going on.
I will now block you. Goodbye.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

The only assertion I made was that there had been reporting of decoupling. I did not assert there had been decoupling. If you can't understand the difference between those two then I really can't help you. At worst I spoke sloppy to a pendant.