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Community about running GNU/Linux on phones. Projects like Ubuntu Touch, Plasma Mobile, PostmarketOS, Mobian etc. Either on former Android phones or hardware like the PinePhone.

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What linux phone is closest to ready for daily use (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago by Volfase@lemmy.world to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ml

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I want to switch from android phone to linux and i want to know which phone is closest to daily driver. I only need call sms and bluetooth to work and battery should last 1 day. also working map camera and web browser app would be great. for os i have thinked to use ubuntu touch or postmarket os. Phones what i have most interested Volla phone Pixel 3a Fairphone 4 Pinephone or pinephone pro Any thoughts or ideas

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[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

PinePhone, PinePhone Pro and Librem 5 should have the best GNU/Linux or postmarketOS support, but their SoCs are not be as fast and energy efficient as other modern phones. You can check my short PinePhone review and there is also some information in this thread. PinePhone's battery will last a day only if you don't use the phone much.

for os i have thinked to use ubuntu touch or postmarket os

Note that postmarketOS is not GNU/Linux, since it's based on Alpine and Ubuntu Touch is GNU/Android or something like that, since it uses the Android kernel. The most popular GNU/Linux distros are Mobian and Manjaro.

[–] Kindness@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Librem 5

URGENT WARNING: Purism, the company manufacturing Librem 5, is a company you should avoid. There is a non-zero chance you will give your money away, and receive nothing. https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=-IjUryQOlgk

Carry on.

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be fair those were preorders and I'm pretty sure everyone did get their phone eventually. It just took a really long time. At least they don't make proprietary software like Louis Rossmann and unlike Pine64, they contribute a lot to the software development. They've created Phosh and still develop it, so it would be a shame if this company didn't exist.

[–] Kindness@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure everyone did get their phone eventually.

Please update to say, they will get their phone. Eventually.

This FAQ was posted August 29th of 2023: https://puri.sm/faq/can-i-get-a-refund-on-my-librem-5-order/ There is no yes or no. Why? Because their answer is a roundabout, "Why we won't refund your money."

To be clear. Purism took people's money starting in 2017, failed to deliver 2 years later, and is currently stringing people along. This has been going on for 5 YEARS. Do yourself a kindness and avoid this company like you would thieves, as there are still many cases of people spending $2.5k on a laptop, and not getting a refund as recent as 30 days ago.

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They way I understand it, their FAQ says that they will not refund any Librem 5 preorders.

We have your phone, and we will ship all the phones to those who have confirmed their mailing address, with the store credit available to the rest.

This is what they promised in 2023 and I haven't yet see any evidence that this didn't happen.

Do yourself a kindness and avoid this company like you would thieves, as there are still many cases of people spending $2.5k on a laptop, and not getting a refund as recent as 30 days ago.

If that's true, then it's pretty messed up. Is that legal under US law?

[–] Kindness@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I haven’t yet see any evidence that this didn’t happen.

Flip that around. Pursim should prove they have fulfilled their orders, instead of consumers assuming they have. On the other hand, if purism spent time writing an answer to a "frequently asked question", they likely are still being asked the question... frequently.

Is that legal under US law?

Depends on what you've agreed to and possibly how long since you've agreed. See 16 CFR 435.2(b), but generally, internet/mail/phone order companies must ship ordered product within 30 days of the agreed upon shipping date, or within 30 days of purchase if no date was agreed upon. Assuming someone does not agree to a delay in shipping, the company must provide a prompt (within 7 days) refund. In the case someone demands a refund after a shipping delay, no, it is not legal.

This thread is very enlightening. https://forums.puri.sm/t/worst-service-refund-not-processed-since-july-2021/19080

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

You are right that it looks pretty bad. It's a shame, since they don't have much competition.

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ubuntu Touch uses Linux Kernel and minimal android system

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah, I see. So I guess we should call it Android/Linux?

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago

Or as I recently began calling it GNU slash Linux PLUS Android