The Panthers did free before school breakfast and after school babysitting and all sorts of actual community building like that. The PSL does protests and craft events and that's it. I guess providing consistent services is an order of magnitude more difficult than organizing marches but it just doesn't seem like the marches are getting us anywhere.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Podcasts are entertainment and news. Propaganda. Education. You shouldn't be looking to podcast celebrities for neighborhood and city level organization.

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Why not? That's exactly how people with a literal microphone obfuscate their involvement in any movement.

"The country is fucked and here's why, but really at the end of the day, we are just some silly bros who have the ear of an entire base, what clout could we possibly have?"

Bad message. Just like on here when people suggest we use this as a platform to spread information and organize them a bunch of people come out and say "nah, this is where we shit post"

There will never be organization on any scale if everyone with a presence hands it off to a nebulous call to "organize".

I live in a town of less than 400 people. They're all right wing. Ive even tried starting the conversation, and got destroyed. How exactly should I "organize" when I'm getting my ass kicked by capitalism, have to work a job with a bazillion hours and still manage to get my own shit done?

Why do the chapo boys who have to be millionaires with basically unlimited free time and a platform get to skate in the duty?

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why do the chapo boys who have to be millionaires with basically unlimited free time and a platform get to skate in the duty?

Because at the end of the day, they aren't proles. If you want to be charitable, they are a modern iteration of the artisan class. If you don't want to be charitable, they're just petty bourgeois with the same fundamental flaws that the petty bourgeoisie has.

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

All I'm getting at is that's not a principled stance from them, and I'm sick of seeing the "monster" that people like them create just get kicked to the curb. They basically created the "dirtbag left" and really popularized this thing we are all still doing. Then they got caught up in the Bernie bullshit, then they pivoted to movie reviews, and as I said earlier, glib takes on the news.