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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 110 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

This is why it's essential for those debates to happen. Yes, both men are declining mentally, but Biden can at least make a coherent argument, even if he mixes up names sometimes.

There is no excuse for either candidate to avoid debates anymore. we need to hear them talk, without prepared speeches. I will take Biden's odds on that over Trump's any day.

If Biden wins this thing, I think history will find that the reason he beat Trump twice was that he was not at all intimidated by him. He takes Trump seriously, but also has the courage to call him out for the liar he is, convincingly, without dismissing his supporters as a bunch of losers. That takes a bit of confidence that only age can bring. Maybe Bernie could have done it, but I don't think any other candidate could. Clinton absolutely failed at that.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 77 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

And to clarify here. Biden is declining because we all do at that age. No one is immune to that. Trump is declining because he has abused who knows how many different drugs and fuck knows what else over the decades, add that history to age and it's never going to be good. Biden has always had a stutter and while I know you didn't mention it, it's been used a bully stick by the maggats seemingly unaware of the fact that their guy has been deranged and unable to stay on topic for years.

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

they're for all intents and purposes the same age

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And your point is?

My point is that it's expected to have some mental decline by that age but I would still bet on Biden if they went toe to toe on jeopardy or at a bars trivia night. And while Biden wouldn't have been my first choice for president to begin with, he is still light years better than trump ever was even at this point and I'll take Biden over most of the current choices on the left especially because those others have zero chance of winning.

With and without the help of things like heavy drinking, drug use, lifestyle, etc, everyone ages differently. I know this from my own family and watching the world around me. Trump has been incoherent for a couple of decades now while Biden has been able to control it (for the most part).

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shit, I'm 34 and I mix up names sometimes. If I had to keep track of as many people as he does, I'd mix up names all the time.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

This right here. I'm (soon to be) 43 and I've always been bad with names. I drive for a living (uber, etc and my own service) I see so many people and have so many regulars that it's only the most frequent regulars and those with unique names who I could pick out of a lineup.

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is important that, eventually, they are told they are retarded losers though.... Even if Trump wins.

[–] einat2346@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago

The person in the chair stopped being important quite a while ago. Now both parties just have lists of smart/rich people willing to implement their specific policies, and they try not to fire critically important gov employees.

I'm not both siding the issue. One side attracts all the Nazis and KKK.