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Democrats doing everything in their power to lose the election.

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[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

The more this goes on the more I'm persuaded by the theory that she was an op from the start and this is just the mask dropping

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Chapo had a guy on semi-recently who advanced a pretty compelling narrative, not that she was an op, but that she was just never as progressive as her support base wanted her to be. Same thing basically happened with Bernie, everyone who is even just center-left really wants someone to glom onto and these are the best options the system is capable of spitting out.

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

She fired her activist chief of staff who fought for her during the election, and replaced him with a former Kamala Harris’s foreign policy aide.

She could deny all she wants, but her initial electoral success was built on a progressive base who volunteered and staffed her campaign office.

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

Yup. 100% pure ghoul origin arc.

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think this is a pretty sane read on it. People love projecting their hopes on the young, new upstart (see: Obama) and it makes them feel like there's some momentum, and maybe some room to get them to back more progressive stuff.

Any "progressive" democrat that retains their seat after one election is sus to me, because we have seen how the DNC destroys all things leftist.

[–] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

I think you're referring to Ryan Grim and his book 'The Squad'

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Idk wearing an “eat the rich” dress, openly id’ing as a socialist, the chief of staff issue mentioned below, feels demonstrably more left-signaling than the Biden term

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

not completely disagreeing but it was "tax the rich" lol

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Oh wow lmao, that was it? Jesus Christ that was a week of news and discourse

[–] axont@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I've had this hunch for a while. Her initial win came out of nowhere and she defeated Joseph Crowley, a very embedded Democrat who had been around for a while. He was even Democratic caucus chairman at one point. I thought it was a case of Democrats accidentally leaving the door unlocked but now I'm more tinfoil hat

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

It's probably also a situation like where Tlaib finds herself. A very safe district with a demographic unlike most other districts

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

I mean, the congressional ogre was probably an op too.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I doubt she's an op, I think she's just a massive pushover and was always more Lib then her base.

Somebody on here a while back read a book about her and did a pretty good write up, made it sound like she was just a habitual people pleaser, when talking with more left wing people she said more leftwing stuff, when around Lib colleagues she said Lib stuff. It's simple as that.

[–] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Aint that all of em.

[–] JuanGLADIO@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What’s this theory? I think the system is transforming people like AOC because they probably realize you can’t get shit done when you’re outnumbered by hundreds. It’s not her fault change can’t come from within. But this doesn’t excuse her or anyone of condemning a genocide.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't remember a whole lot of specifics but I read an article someone posted on here looking into AOC's career at Boston University (she interned for Ted Kennedy) and noting that her career as a bartender wasn't particularly long. I think it's mostly speculation but the idea that she picked up some establishment connections during her internship doesn't seem very outre.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

I feel like more people should run on platforms that basically say "I can't promise I'll get what we want done, but I'll fuck their shit up any way I can and be your eyes and ears in that cesspit. There will be no second term anyway".