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European crash tester says carmakers must bring back physical controls (arstechnica.com)

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Touchscreen can be a positive because you get dynamic and contextual menus, and the sort of rich user interface that people expect from modern devices.

I would argue that maybe with the exception of GPS or music -- and that's a very dubious "maybe" -- anything complicated enough to need dynamic and contextual menus doesn't belong in a car in the first place.

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are lots of functions that can benefit, just not ones you want to do while in motion.

Plot a GPS route (as you suggested)
Change the equaliser settings for your stereo
Pair your phone with bluetooth
Check your driving statistics, fuel consumption
View vehicle diagnostics like tyre pressures, service interval
Change any infrequent settings like clock, kmh/mph display preference, lane keep warnings, etc

I like touchscreen - I just don't like it at the expense of losing physical controls for the things that matter.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The first three are covered under "GPS or music."

I concede your point on the fourth and fifth. I did consider mentioning that sort of thing, but I was thinking more of reading trouble codes without needing to plug a computer into the OBD2 port as a convenience and figured it was too niche.

As for the sixth, I'd suggest that a clock nowadays ought to set itself via GPS, NTP, or radio signal; kmh/mph should be a non-issue because the speedometer should be analog and have tick marks for both, I'm not sure lane keep warnings need to be configurable, etc.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Of course lane keep warnings need to be configurable. Personally, I disable most of them in any vehicle I drive.

They give me notification fatigue and pull my attention more often to misinterpreted information than to an an issue that requires my attention. For instance, in construction zones where lines shift or there is a hazard on the shoulder so I hug the center line more. Or even worse, just because the computer lost track of the lanes for a bit.

Of modern driver aids, the only one I am a big fan of (when done well) is adaptive cruise control. The Subarus I've driven have been smooth in handling cars pulling in front of my when on cruise, but the last Honda I drove was very harsh in using regenerative braking.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Of modern driver aids, the only one I am a big fan of (when done well) is adaptive cruise control. The Subarus I’ve driven have been smooth in handling cars pulling in front of my when on cruise, but the last Honda I drove was very harsh in using regenerative braking.

I'm the kind of guy that doesn't want so much as an automatic transmission, let alone any fancy electronic nannies, but I admit I'd love to have adaptive cruise control too.