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‘Uncommitted’ Campaign in Michigan Shatters Expectations Against Biden
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Voters are well aware what a monster Trump is. You’re being disingenuous or dense by continuing to screech about the orange dotard.
The DNC is refusing to hold primaries in good faith. This is literally the last best option to show our utter disdain for Biden’s piss poor policy positions, because they have removed democratic choice as an option.
Don’t like it? Be a better leader. Start by demanding a ceasefire and restoring full funding for UN humanitarian aid in Gaza. Blaming voters for Biden’s failures is a surefire strategy to lose in November.
fixed that for you (see: 2016, 2020)
I don't think so. Over 80 million voted for him in 2020. And support among those that supported Biden in 2020 in waning. Read this article and shudder: https://www.npr.org/2024/02/28/1234145544/2024-election-michigan-voters-disillusioned-biden-trump
Considering Trump got only like 10% of the black vote in 2020, this is a huge shift.
Yeah, people are so angry, so ready to screw themselves and go down a dark path to prove a point, so do you think that telling them they can't even make that point in the primary is going to get them on board for the general? It's absurdist, antidemocratic, nonsense.
What I think is people will say “wow, even a lot if Democrats wouldn’t vote for Biden, so I guess I should go Trump.”
Trump is obviously a monster, any non-MAGA is painfully aware of that fact.
Trump is also recognized, rightfully so, as a political outsider. He is decidedly not more of the same. We the people have been getting squeezed dry for over 50 years, as productivity has continued to rise and material living conditions have only gotten worse. Biden, on the other hand, is the literal embodiment of the status quo politician - for him and his rich corporate donors, things have been great. Biden wants that to continue, thus all he promises is that “nothing will fundamentally change.”
So again, even though it’s a desperate and misguided notion, stop blaming voters for their desperate actions. If you want Biden to galvanize more support, demand he do something to lead and meaningfully improve people’s lives.
They knew he was a monster. It's why they voted for him. Never forget that the worst people you know vote and have social media.
There are more stupid voters than you think. Hanlon’s Razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
You are demonstrably wrong. Trump is still going to get nearly half the vote. Potential Trump voters are not just the rabid nutters we associate with Trump rallies. They include millions of normal people who who can be swayed. You almost certainly live in a left-wing social and media bubble if you think Biden is guaranteed a victory in the general election.
I think you may have responded to the wrong comment?
I think Biden is pretty much the only Dem who can lose to Trump in the general. Lots of polling data supports this theory as well.