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[–] Hex@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've put dough on top of my computer to rise while playing games before because of the extra warmth, purpose of a system is what is does

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I burnt a toast in the toaster. But ruining my bread is not the purpose of the toaster.

Similarly, if a fire alarm goes off on a false positive, that doesn't mean the purpose of the fire alarm was to waste the firefighters time. Not every effect of a system is also its purpose.

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

But if your toaster ALWAYS ruined your toast, and you kept putting bread in it for, say, seventy years, and every single time it made a burned mess you say "But the toaster is supposed to make toast, it was designed with the intention to make toast, this burned mess is just bad luck/an unintended side effect/the result of a few bad apples" - then your epistemological paradigm might be lacking.

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah just the effect that KEEPS HAPPENING over and over again. As another poster put it, if a toaster burns toast every single time, then yeah, that's a toaster for burning bread. That's all its useful for.