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The white supremacist right is penetrating the mainstream right with increasing ease.

The Conservative Political Action Conference is the premier gathering of right-wing activists and politicians in America every year, and it serves as a bellwether for the direction of the conservative movement. This year Nazis showed up.

According to an NBC News report, “a group of Nazis who openly identified as national socialists mingled with mainstream conservative personalities, including some from Turning Point USA, and discussed ‘race science’ and antisemitic conspiracy theories.” (Hitler’s Nazi Party was officially called the “National Socialist German Workers’ Party.”) The reporter of the article has video of one of them giving a “heil Hitler”-style salute in the lobby of the hotel where the conference took place and of other members of the group reportedly used the N-word.

This is a critical frog-in-boiling-water moment for the right: The mainstream organs of American conservatism are apparently acclimating to Nazis in their pot. That this group was able to mingle with participants at a high-profile conference, wasn't kicked out of CPAC, and wasn't appropriately condemned is a sign of how contiguous mainstream conservatism has become with white supremacist politics today.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 55 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't think the boiling frog analogy really applies when the frogs are never going to jump out of the water.

Conservatism is the foundation of nazism. They know it looks bad, so they publicly downplay it. But they still embrace their nazi constituency.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly.

Try to tell a conservative that fascism is a right-wing ideology; they'll reject the premise every time. This is because either:

  • they're playing cryptofascist games and enjoy pissing you off
  • they're brainwashed into thinking evil=left and will never consider any alternative

So they're either on board or a useful idiot. I invite people to try it sometime if they don't believe me.

[–] Hominine@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I get the point of analyzing fascism in logical circles but to discuss the issue with the adherents sounds a bit "lost ball in tall grass" to me.
Who cares what Republicans think of the origins and prior applications of the ideology while they are exclusively leaning into it in the present moment? Frankly it seems like a strange jumping off point to change people's minds or engage in any kind of fruitful conversation.
My two pennies (by way of Ecco I suppose.)

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My suggestion isn't for the edification of fascists; it's to show leftists that conservatives cannot be honest about fascism.

We're in agreement that it doesn't much matter which option they choose, as the effect is the same.

[–] Hominine@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I see, thanks for setting me straight.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

So a combination of boiling frogs and crabs in a bucket?