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"Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?" [Y/N]

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm just gonna abstain to vote for president but vote down the ballot blue everywhere else.
Because I have been told time and time again that Biden doesn't need to court Progressives because the important thing is courting the centrists who will get him elected. So if I won't make an impact then, why does it matter if I don't vote for him?

It can't be both that my vote is the most important and not necessary. And I get the argument of, "well he needs to court the centrists who are morons and you just need to vote because you know better." but I know better and I won't just be a reliable vote just because they expect it they are owed it for not being worse.

I want a government that takes it's job seriously. Not expects to keep it because what other choice do I have. And my only power is voice and vote which is practically worthless as working class.

So either Biden will win because everyone is right. No left party in the US and they don't need us or they are gonna change tactics. But I'm tired.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Biden needs every vote he can to beat Trump. The only way we will ever get a true left party in this country is through Democrats. Beating Trump is literally a life or death matter for some people. Hell, more than some.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yup. And if Biden is so sure that he will win then he will earn the votes won't he? Why is it that sycophants that shout that everyone needs to hold their nose and do what they tell them is the voting strategy instead of doing anything personally to inspire voters.

If Biden wants the votes he needs to ask for them and earn them. You telling me to do anything won't work. You don't have the sway and I say that as any generic person you argue against.

Also, everything is life or death because that is the nature of the world. And the institutional Democrats are never gonna be the party that lets a true left party take over. They will separate before the centrists ever agree to vote on progressive policy because it might change how the game is played.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Biden has actually been really solid on progressive policy. He has poured tons of funding into the shift to renewable energy, he has funded efforts towards sustainable farming, and put $4 billion into Colorado River conservation to preserve the local water supply.

Unions have flourished under Biden more than any president for decades. He passed a rule that extends overtime pay to 3.6 million more workers. He installed a union friendly NLRB which issued the Chemex decision, putting tight restrictions on anti-union companies.

He enabled over the counter birth control sales. He capped insulin prices. He funded research with the goal of reducing cancer rates in half over 25 years.

He cracked down on banks' overdraft fees and junk charges. He enacted anti-redlining policies for the Fed.

He put $1.2 trillion into infrastructure repair and upgrades, including broadband, which created hundreds of thousands of jobs.

These are all strong progressive changes and he did them in spite of GOP obstruction. There's plenty more too.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I miss when the concept of workers getting paid correctly would be a maintenance of the system instead of progressive because the alternative is just straight up slavery.

A lot of that like preserving drinking water for states, and infrastructure feels like that shouldn't be progressive but just expected to keep the country alive and working.