I think that 31000 doesn't include wounded while the 410k does. So comparable number would be something like 3-4 times that (2-3 wounded per 1 dead). That of course still means that Russia is losing personnel roughly 4 times more and (based on loose estimation on what I've gathered from the news) the ones wounded on Ukrainian side are far more likely to rejoin the fight after recovery.

The problem is that Russia still has literally millions of people to throw in and they don't really care about personnel losses while Ukraine is struggling to have enough hardware for their troops to keep the fight going, specially with artillery. I really, really hope that specially EU can get their shit together and provide enough support for Ukraine as any kind of victory for Russia would be catastrophic to rest of the Europe in coming years.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Another thing to factor in is that Ukrainian medical services are a lot better than Russian ones, meaning casualties that can return to the fight would be much higher on their side than for Russia.

[–] LordR@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

The 410k are actually deaths. The estimation for wounded as well is over a million by now.

[–] The_one_and_only@feddit.nl 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is how the Russian tactic works: just keep throwing meat in the grinder, and hope the grinder gets stuck on it. A life is not worth much for Putin.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Yes Putin doesn't give a shit about either Ukrainians or Russians. I sure hope these numbers aren't too far off, because that gives hope for Ukraine.

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Even if you double the number (which probably is on the lower end of credible sources), thats pretty damning for Russia...

[–] Woifee@mastodon.social 5 points 8 months ago

@Buffalox @wildflower

Casualties also include wounded and not able to return to the fight.
Zelenskyj just talked about the ukrainian dead soldiers, not wounded.

Russian losses but also just estimates based on engagements they had. I wonder how or even if Deserters and casualties caused by weather and sickness are counted. Also self mutilation is a thing in wartime.

These are russian casualties Ukraine has a hard time to measure.

But also casualties ukraine probably suffers from.