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Hillary Clinton is warning about the legality of birth control in the wake of a decision by the Alabama Supreme Court that found frozen embryos created through fertility treatments are children under state law.

“They came for abortion first. Now it’s [in vitro fertilization], and next it’ll be birth control,” the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee and secretary of State said in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

“The extreme right won’t stop trying to exert government control over our most sacred personal decisions until we codify reproductive freedom as a human right,” Clinton added.

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[–] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hillary Clinton helped get Trump elected. That's enough for me to confidently call her a piece of shit. Is it for you? Or is it okay to help Trump in some situations?

[–] Kainsley@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You've deliberately avoided answering the question. Promoting one other candidate because you think it's better for you is a very legitimate strategy, the fact that it backfired is another thing. You seem to be implying that she somehow intentionally screwed everyone over when her intention was clearly to win, other factors had a far greater influence (ie the meddling of other countries)

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You’ve deliberately avoided answering the question. Promoting one other candidate because you think it’s better for you is a very legitimate strategy

For the personal interests of Hillary Clinton? Absolutely. Doesn't change the fact that she's a piece of shit.

Anyway I'm not interested in answering your question. I'm just here to remind everyone Hillary Clinton is a piece of shit.

[–] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

ok, so you didn't understand. you misquoted the aboe poster by leaving out the "over herself" part. That is the key part of the above posters point, that Hillary did try to become president for real, but screwed it up. The above poster was asking if you really believed that Hillary never even tried to beat Trump and become president. I am pointing this out because you are essentially talking past the above posters point.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am pointing this out because you are essentially talking past the above posters point.

And I'm pointing out they're talking past the point I made in the comment they're responding to.

HRC helped Trump win the Republican primaries in 2016.

See how that works?

[–] Kainsley@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Not at all correct, I'm trying to establish whether you believe Hilary deliberately got trump elected, or whether she screwed up. You seem to be avoiding the answer because it doesn't fit your narrative, made even clearer by your choice to cut out the key part of my question when paraphrasing. If you aren't open to a legitimate discussion then there isn't much point in continuing.

(Paraphrasing, ignoring questions to make your own point etc see the exact traits I see and hate in the right, usually I can have proper honest conversations with fellow lefties so I have to admit I was surprised by your tactics here)

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No you're trying to deflect the conversation away from a very simple fact: Hillary helped Trump get elected. Anyone who helps Trump get elected is a piece of shit. Hillary Clinton is a piece of shit.

It's rich that you're lecturing my narrative when we're both trying to push one. Yours just happens to be the same narrative being pushed by pro-corporate, strike blocking, genocide supporting establishment Democrats. What's in it for you?

[–] Kainsley@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's some very aggressive spin. All I get from you is anger towards anyone with a different opinion, you don't seem open to conversation, you attempt to spin what other people have said, so why should anyone take what you're saying at face value?

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

You didn't answer my question so I won't be answering yours.