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The US is supporting Israel through what we can mostly all agree is a genocide of the Gazans. Clearly, Biden isn't a genocidal maniac, yet he's all in with unwavering support. Why are we doing this? There has to be a logical reason that isn't just "we want Israel to kill everyone in Gaza and take their land a la lebensraum."

We know this is an emotional topic, so please be respectful of each other so that we can have open and clear authentic discussion on the matter.

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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Israel does not need our help, they could easily defend themselves against their neighbor and as a nuclear armed country they know the US will jump in to defend them.

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A country of less than 9.5 million people cannot afford to fund the occupation and blockade of 5.5 million Palestinians alone, still less make all the weapons required.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They don't need to, they just need to verify their Sampson defense and no one would dare attempt an invasion, it's quite literally the only reason their country isn't a smouldering crater.

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You're not wrong about the nukes. You're wrong about Israel not needing support from the US to continue existing in its current form, which is the point I addressed.

In the early decades, they flirted with the USSR to keep the US onside. The nuclear threat now performs at least some of the same blackmail. But the blackmail is necessary because this is a tiny country keeping millions of people under brutal occupation. It is not physically possible for Israel to have the Occupation without bucketloads of funding from a superpower.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It's absolutely possible, you seem to ignore the technological and firepower disparity and focusing solely on military size.

Iran is 14th Israel is 17th and that's ignoring a nuclear arsenal.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

And yet they are writing checks that the US has to cash