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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hey congratulations you continuously insisting that the rising fascism in the america isn't anything to worry about puts you in ideological lockstep with the liberals.

It's just I've watched them be wrong about literally everything for my entire life and haven't really seen any evidence that's suddenly going to change for no reason.

Maybe if you aren't from America don't get so bent out of shape when somebody who is from there say that yes, the completely unopposed ascendancy of fascism in the countrybwith the world's biggest military is no big deal.

Tell that to the 15000 dead Palestinian children that 80% of this country agrees deserved it.

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Tell that to the 15000 dead Palestinian children that 80% of this country agrees deserved it.

You need to cite sources. Everything I have seen says that support for Israel has never been lower.

Palestine will win regardless of whether America supports it or not.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yea before now it was at about 98% so your right it never has been higher.

Ok I guess everything's great and Palestine is doing just fine thanks for the education lesson.

Edit: looked it up it's "only" 70% not 80% that think we're either doing the right amount or not enough to fund Isreals genocide

https://news.gallup.com/poll/545045/americans-back-israel-military-action-gaza.aspx

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Where are your sources? Everything I've seen says that support for Israel has never been lower. The young people are appalled at Israel's genocide. It is now normal and mainstream to speak out against Israel and its genocide.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just linked it.

Gallup polling says 70% of Americans think we're doing the right amount or not enough.

And of those that think we're doing too much it's all liberals who are going to vote for Biden regardless or the literal fascists you keep telling me not to worry about.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/545045/americans-back-israel-military-action-gaza.aspx

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Gallup polling says 70% of Americans think we're doing the right amount or not enough.

literally the fucking headline: "Americans Back Israel's Military Action in Gaza by 50% to 45%"

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Half of Americans approve of Israel’s military action in the Hamas-led Gaza Strip, and 45% disapprove, according to a Gallup poll conducted several weeks after Hamas launched a deadly attack on Israel that led to a major military operation by Israel.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/545045/americans-back-israel-military-action-gaza.aspx

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe try reading more than the first paragraph.

"The largest segment of Americans, 42%, say the U.S. is providing about the right amount of military aid to Israel, and another 25% say the U.S. is not doing enough, totaling 67% who endorse at least the current level of military aid to Israel."

It doesn't really matter if they say they oppose it in one question if in the next question of "should we reduce funding" 70% say no.

Am I really going to have to explain why material actions are more important than empty political platitudes to a proclaimed communist?

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

"I don't support what Isreal is doing but we should keep giving them the same amount or more funding and support" actually worked on you?

You must be so fucking stoked when liberals tell you they'd love to do something but there's nothing they can do huh.

Gonna break it off here since you're literally arguing that words are more important than actions.

I just took a poll and 100% of respondants agreed I was right so check and mate I guess since opinions are more important than what actually happens.

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

I think you've lost the plot. What were you trying to argue again?

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't understand how any of this is relevant to whether fascists are "doing fine" or not. If you don't believe communism will win, why do you even bother being a communist?

Also, I don't get how, even assuming that Americans are 102% in support of Israel (which they are not), this means that it's over for Palestine. The fate of the Palestinians will not be determined by popular opinion of Americans. The Palestinians themselves will determine their own fate.

I don't care about what random fucking Americans think. They do not determine the fate of the world.

Communism will win. Palestine will win. Israel will fall, regardless of how much Americans love it.

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

Libs are the ones saying the only thing that matters in the world is trump being bad who fits their definition of fascist. In reality liberalism isn't that far from fascism, so it's not a big deal the difference between the parties and idealogies.