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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I can't fix what's broken with the Republican party. But I'd be happy to quicken it's demise so that a more sensible conservative party might emerge. I'm not a Democrat by ideology - at least I don't agree with them in all cases, but it feel obligated to oppose the current Republican party at every level.

I like having choices at the ballot box and right now I feel I have none. Excise the tumor so that it can become healthy.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

But I'd be happy to quicken it's demise so that a more sensible conservative party might emerge.

I might be pessimistic, but I don't see the sensible part of the party coming out on top in that fight. They've lost ground every step so far.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

perhaps, but why? Why do all the sensible people have to lose to the fucking insane?

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 10 points 8 months ago

Something is clearly broken with America, and everyone who isnt an insufferable policy wonk all know that it's the neoliberal system we have organized around that is the problem.

The divide comes because conservative elements cannot accept that free market capitalism has failed at improving life for anyone but the ultra-wealthy, so they blame undesirables and minority boogiemen because they have been conditioned to beleive that socialism will lead to bread lines and technological stagnation. Fascism is capitalism's last ditch effort to save itself.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 8 months ago

Because of first-past-the-post primaries.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Probably because in that party, anyone with a modicum of rational thought and who is not driven by emotional drivers (like racism and dreams of a xtian caliphate) is a very tiny minority. Sure, there might be a few left who are just there for the tax cuts and the corporate handouts; they are probably the elitist thought leaders and/or the donor class funding the movement/party.

[–] randomwords@midwest.social 1 points 8 months ago

Because there isn't a sensible part of the party. They have all succumbed to the greed of trumpism.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't even know what a sensible conservative party that /isn't/ where the Democratic Party is already at would look like, TBH. So many in the party already adheres - even still - to neoliberal orthodoxy on matters economic.

I'm almost exactly the opposite - I'd love to have a serious alternative to the left of the Democratic Party and the end of the Republican Party. Both parties have gone to the right; leaving the progressive majority of Americans (on the issues) out in the cold. Money in politics ruins everything and of course, only the donors really get the policy they want.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

It would be interesting if democrats absorbed the conservatives and the left wing broke off. It just doesn't feel very likely.