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For those who watched DS9 during its first airings, did it seem odd to you that Vic Fontaine/James Darren sang entire songs in the later seasons of DS9?

I only finished watching DS9 recently and just found it really odd. It seems out of place in the regular TNG/DS9 format, didn't drove the plotline forward, and sometimes felt just like a filler.

(I don't mean to be disrespectful, I like the character and the actor can sing well, I am just curious why the producers made that decision).

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[–] FelipeFelop@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(Please can we stop stereotyping people by age. I saw DS9 the first time around and I’m not a Boomer. )

Star Trek has always had light moments in episodes. So this was nothing new. It was the case until the early 00s that many shows had an occasional musical interlude or even an entire musical episode. Sometimes celebrities would appear and do a whole song or their act.

That’s starting to happen again even in Sci-Fi. eg The Orville has had a few musical numbers. Also, keep watching SNW 😉

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sorry ... really didn't mean to offend or even stereotype too much, and I didn't mean to invoke "boomer" in any negative sense here and could have just referred to the simple fact I was point out ... which was that a 30 year old in the 90s would have been more familiar with Sinatra and the vibe of that scene than a 30 year old in 2020.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only if that thirty year old in the 2020s had a poor cultural upbringing. I was seven when DS9 started, fourteen by the time it ended and only thirty-seven now. I'm well aware of Sinatra and the Rat-Pack and the Vegas scene.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

poor cultural upbringing

That’s a bit judgmental, anrbitrary and even culturally hegemonic don’t you think? I was slightly older than you at the same time and couldn’t have given a fuck about the rat pack at the time (or now TBH) but was happily listening to Bach and blues and engaged with other things. Are you from the USA by any chance? (I’m not).

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

No, I'm British.

[–] FelipeFelop@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet you continue with stereotypes based on age.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I implied “more likely to be familiar”, on which I could have been more clear.

Otherwise, as far as my presumptions go, I’m theorising on a population level here, and am presuming generations have cultural differences. Stereotyping, IMO, can be done accurately enough if done from a statistical perspective which basically guarantees a degree of centrality as well, and this is the important bit many fail to recognise, a degree of variation.

I’m not trying to tell anyone who or what they are based on one particular trait. Just speculating as to a statistical factor that may exist at the aggregate level.

A 30 year old in 1995 would be a Gen Xer.

My recollection is that it was the younger adults in their 20s who were into the lounge culture revival in the 90s.

Older boomers would have been in their teens the first time round for this music. It wasn’t so much for them.