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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You say that like it's that big a leap. In any case, sorry I wasn't 100% linguistically perfect, even post-elaboration. Half of people say I should be concise, the other half says I should elaborate more, so I figured someone would sound unpleased.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because it's a giant one.

There is no valid interpretation of cryptography that resembles the way you defined it in any way.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is that based on what you see when you look it up?

cryp·tog·ra·phy

noun

the art of writing or solving codes.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's a terrible definition, but "codes" is doing the heavy lifting.

It is not a code, in that definition, if it does not require knowledge of a key to decode.

It is literally impossible for anything that doesn't have a secret key to qualify as cryptography. That is the entire defining trait.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

That’s a terrible definition

How so?

And what do you think I've been talking about this whole time if not forms of substitution?

[–] bigMouthCommie@mastodon.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

no. replacement cyphers are cryptography, too.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The "key" is the mapping of cipher alphabet to message alphabet.

There has to be a secret to be cryptography. The meaning has to be hidden without the secret information (though primitive/weak attempts can have a small enough search space to be brute forced). But the content being hidden without that information is the entirety of what the word means.