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[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Unless it’s from China or any communist allies.

Or any other foreign entity. The Bill of Rights wasn't written to protect foreign governments or business interests.

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

or business interests.

According to the Supreme Court, businesses have human rights, are you defending the violation of human rights?

How the turn tables.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

foreign governments or business interests.

Obviously meaning foreign governments or foreign business interests. Not sure how you misunderstood that.

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

I see, the USA should work on banning Toyota, Samsung, Siemens, Nestle and etc.

Actually, just banning Nestlé for their slavery practices in Africa would be good enough.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

100% agree about Neslte. And I'd be happy to expand the requirements to do business with America to include adhering to US labor regulations.

But do you at least understand how the Bill of Rights doesn't apply to this conversation at all now?

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

100% agree about Neslte. And I’d be happy to expand the requirements to do business with America to include adhering to US labor regulations.

Make it United Nations labor regulations and we're set for a good time, comrade.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure, that sounds good and all but do you understand the UN doesn't have any legal power over its member nations? I'm interested in realistic, enforceable legal outcomes, not utopian dreams.

Your idealism is fun, but you really need to read more and travel some to start peeling off that thick layer of naivety.

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sadly there's a good chance Trump will win and implement the GOP's project of Child Labor in the US.

I’m interested in realistic, enforceable legal outcomes, not utopian dreams.

America already follows many international regulations and applies them with the rule of the law.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ah, I get it, you meant the US should voluntarily adopt UN labor regulations over defining their own because you assume UN regulations would be categorically better than what the US would ever define on their own.

Have you ever actually researched that or you just go from the premise that UN is better than the US because it's not the US and the US is bad?

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't go that far, I'm mostly worried about the recent push by republicans to implement victorian-era child labor in the USA. They are actually going for it, I wish I were fearmongering and just "being a tankie" but I'm not.

if the USA implements it, there will be a horde of liberal presidents doing it as well, they copy everything the USA does wrong.

If you are American, please don't let Trump win.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So you've never actually looked at any UN labor regulations or compared them to the US?

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Correct, I consider them a trustworthy organization, although sadly one with little power. I wouldn't mind the UN as "The World Government" IF they had some strict, extremely strict, let me say that again, extremely strict measures in place to counter changes of policy and liberal takeover.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, it's easy to trust powerless things. The fact that you think that indicates they'd be trustworthy with power is a bit concerning, but I am genuinely enjoying your idealism.

Maybe look that stuff up sometimes, though it could damage your faith and maybe you prefer the bliss of ignorance.

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You really like the "this will never happen, give up and embrace evil lolololol" mentality don't you. Ever heard of doing things step by stepping while working towards a greater goal?

Did you know we deposed a dictator in my country? He went to the USA to ask for help in a coup and even gather multiple internal diplomats to clean up the situation after the coup happened.

You have so much power in your hands.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Do you just not like to read or are you really that afraid to challenge your assumptions?

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