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Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros::The return window for the very first Apple Vision Pro buyers is fast approaching — and some have taken to social media to explain why they won’t be keeping their headsets.

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[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Microsoft barely made a PC interface, they’re the last ones i would expect make a proper AR interface.

[–] OrderedChaos@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aren't they removing the AR they built into the OS? I swear I read recently that they gave up on their customers that bought their headset so people that have it are forced to stay on an old version of windows just to use them.

[–] Everyday3671@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Microsoft’s game plan seems to be:

  1. Sell a cool idea, halfheartedly.
  2. Abandon the idea.
  3. Wait until someone else done it right.
  4. Ripe them off / play catch up.

It was exactly like that for Windows on ARM.

In other words, regardless of whether you like/hate Apple, if the Vision Pro does not success, then there probably won’t be any further investment in the space from MS either.

[–] OrderedChaos@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I don't mind any of the companies when they have tech that does a job really well. Sadly it seems that they all have this collective idea that anything they've done well is not worth maintaining at some point. I'm neither a Linux, windows, or Mac fan. And each have their strengths. You just pick the poison while it's available to fill a need.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Not sure what do you mean by PC interface. Do you mean interface between user and computer? (which has nothing to do with software) Or like GUI in an operating system?

If by "PC interface" you mean GUI, then I still don't get you, because there's real alternative to Windows UI in any desktop operating system last time I checked. Sure Apple has macOS with its simple UI, and may be good for users that need to do only basic tasks, but if you need to have powerful (and in some parts customizable, although Unix desktops like KDE or Xfce may be better suited for max customization) UI with great UX for power users and without need to get to command line often (like you do on Linux) nothing beats Windows.

[–] sacredfire@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know, when we start talking about power users my mind goes to developers and most seem to not like windows. At least that has been my experience. Most of us prefer unix based systems, primarily because we have to use it to interact with like almost every server anyway. And of course I’m not just talking about different Linux distos, Mac is essentially Unix based and is in heavy use in a lot of shops.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, as for development I'd say Linux (or any Unix-like) is more suited for that, especially when you have really great shell, development utilities and awesome package managers, and the overall system design is good for that. Also some stuff is just faster to do in command line, I could never see myself using git graphically for example, as doing so only gives me more headaches. But for most stuff I prefer GUI, because GUI's tend to have common design choices, and you can generally figure it out in few minutes, while for CLI utilities anything goes, some have built-in interactive prompts, some incompatible syntax, there's sometimes steep learning curve, and list goes on.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft puts ads in the start menu. I could go into a deeper critique, but ultimately that is the canary in the coal mine. Any company with a structure capable of shipping that feature is fucking busted in terms of user experience and ui design.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I don't really use start menu, nor have ads in my OS (may be regional thing), but that's a good point.