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[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I've been hearing about how older generations always hate younger generations all my life. How I must be destined to grow in to some crochety old man by 40.

I gotta say these kids seem like they're headed in a pretty good direction, they're funny, they're not taking shit, frankly it seems like it's going pretty well.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah dude. I'm Xilenial, was told how I would grow up and be just like them. No, really, becoming old is a choice. My younger brothers are full on MAGA and hate-filled. They look and act older than I do by a long shot. I work with teams of Gen Z students and stay young by being around them.

You can age without becoming old. Some people chose to be old, and those types tend to hate younger folks and also hated the older people when they were younger themselves.

[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Right?! I was way more conservative in my teens and have gone way further to the left and less conservative as I've aged.

"When you buy a house you'll understand" ... yeah, nope, maybe it's the fact that it took 3 of us to buy the house instead of ONE salary being able to, but, nope - still not a crazy jackass who has no empathy just to keep my property taxes low.

ETA: Gen Z is great. I love the no fucks given attitude in the workplace and they're a fucking inspiration.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think you're right. Boomers were much more liberal than their parents but became neoconservatives once they got into housing ownership and the stock market. They then projected their own wants and desires on the next generations and assumed that everyone would follow them.

I was also very conservative as a teen, but that was only because my family lived in a shithole suburb and complained nonstop about California and liberals. As soon as I get away from them, my tune changed pretty much instantly.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's also such a thing as conditioning that we must recognize. Alt-right groups are actively targeting people for conversion and radicalization into the MAGA mindset.

Innuendo Studios has done a number of videos on this that are well worth watching. Like this one:

https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g?feature=shared

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

YES... and this is why I want to.punch every clown who says "fascism will die off with the Boomers". It never has, and never will

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They are also not fundamentally brain damaged by years of the inhalation of lead and then being irradiated by one of the worse nuclear disasters of all time.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I knew about the lead for Gen X. Are you talking about both Millennials and Gen Z not having been poisoned in their developmental years or are you referring to Boomers (and older), some of whom were irradiated and/or got hit by smog, etc. It sounds like you're saying something also happened to Millennials otherwise, and I never heard about this.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, just gen Z. Even a large number of the Millennial population were fairly exposed. Millennial generation starts in 1981, leaded gas didn't become illegal to sell until 1992. And Chernobyl happened in 1986.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

Oh that's right, Chernobyl! There were staggered end dates to the sale of leaded gas though, so the years will vary more or less by continent. Nevertheless, your point remains valid even if the lead pollution was at its peak in the 1970s.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Actually only Gen Z will be free of the epigenetic effects. It actually takes 2 gens of not being exposed for a generation not to be affected.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Actually only Gen Z will be free of the epigenetic effects.

Literally the exact generation we're talking about.

[–] argarath@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I guess we can say Stoly is not a gen Z then