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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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There has never been an energy transition (hipcrime.substack.com)

submitted 9 months ago by eleitl@lemmy.ml to c/collapse@lemmy.ml

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[–] sonori@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Except that the primary limiter on the rate at which the poorer countries are transitioning is a lack of capital with which to build new cheaper renewables in a country scale example of it being expensive to be poor. Building local industrial goods is giving them the capital necessary to build renewables, it’s just lagging because Fossil companies are putting huge amounts of capital into slowing it.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

This logic totally makes sense in the world of university economy books, or international cooperation, but it's still going to kill most people on the planet.