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For example, people on Reddit asking redundant questions and give equally redundant or unhelpful answers.

Whenever every 'What's the worst show you've seen?' is asked, you'll get 10,000 "Kardashians" answers, which is just easy karma farming.

If someone posts in a community that's geared for something like opinions, but someone elects to just go on a full scale rant instead.

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[–] redditcunts@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's amazing for how much this place is supposed to be decentralized and open, hours much you all want to control messaging, themes, and already are having fight over fight on who to defederate from.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Twice now I've seen claims of "This instance just exists to support ! Defederate them!"

Meanwhile I'm subscribed to what appear to be completely normal, reasonable communities on those instances that seem to have nothing to do with the bad thing. Think topics like computer networking and home improvement, stuff like that.

Can we go easy on jumping to the "This instance" claims? Yes, some unsavory communities have been started on various instances. Those instances have, in general, addressed the issues when they were brought to their attention... Can we reserve the nuclear defederation option for repeat offenders or technical issues?

[–] oshaboy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only Tangentially related but I keep reading "Defederate" as "Defenestrate". Which is a way better way to deal with rogue instances IMO.

[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Brings a whole new meaning to "new just dropped"

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you share a list of your subscribed communities? I need to bulk up

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For home improvement, I've been using !homeimprovement@lemmy.world. For computer networking, !networking@sh.itjust.works. sh.itjust.works was one of the ones I saw people screaming to defederate because someone started a community there that most people (including me) found problematic. (Pretty sure the admins deleted it when they became aware.)

Beyond that...what topics interest you? Pretty pictures? Try !pixelpassport@lemm.ee or !earthporn@lemmy.ml .

Cats? !cat@lemmy.world is pretty active already, as one might expect...

I have a few geographically local subscriptions, as well as a sports team...a few TV shows like Futurama and The Simpsons...other hobbies...etc.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Futurama is life. Photography, cooking, home theater, vegetable gardening, reading, movies, sci-fi, Action Figures, bourbon, cocktails, cheese.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

!Futurama@lemmy.world

I joined a Nikon community here: !nikon@lemm.ee if that's what you happen to shoot with.

[–] Frostwolf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

@limelight79@lemm.ee

Honestly not fan of defederation. I believe the answer should be giving users the ability to block instances. Maybe in the future versions of lemmy.

[–] McJonalds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

what are your favorite communities for home improvement?

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The only one I know of is !homeimprovement@lemmy.world (sorry if I didn't get that link correct). Not much traffic yet, but a few people have posted issues.

(Note - I used home improvement as an example of a general type of community that I subscribe to. I don't know if lemmy.world was one of the ones I saw people pushing to defederate.)

[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

Right? My feed could really use some more Tim Allen.

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

Experience has shown that too much blue-eyed-ness and openness towards trolls with bad intentions ruins a space very quickly. I can understand people want to put some thought into avoiding this before it happens.

[–] ramplay@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I mean you're highlighting some points that support how open and decentralized that this place is?

It seems there is a healthy sentiment among users and understanding the tolerance paradox. Beyond that the ability to discuss around what we (an instance) wants vs what we (Lemmy) wants vs what we (individual users) want is great. The option the federate and defederate is also great, as if there is an instance adding 0 value to any of those prior groups (like lemmy.online), you as a community can decide to not federate. You as a user don't like that choice? You can go to another instance or make your own! The level of openess and control is really in your hands.