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[–] nomnomdeplume@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago (6 children)
[–] rooster_butt@lemm.ee 23 points 9 months ago

I feel like double u is cheating since that's just b again.

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue 'f' they don't press hard but they lightly touch

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Bro what are you doing with your lips? "F" is top teeth on lower lip.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

What the pfuck are you pfrattling on about?

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My front lip is over my teeth when I say it, and it is touching the bottom lip.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

you can also form an /s/ with various parts of the tongue and mouth but it's generally held to be an alveolar bladal fricative.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That would interrupt airflow would it not?

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

You don't purse the lips together, they're lightly touching allowing air to go through

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not if your lips just touch lightly in the middle and the air flows around the sides.

Maybe it’s a regional thing, but that’s also how I say that sound.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could be regional yeah. Interesting!

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah - I mean, I can say an f-word like “fountain” without lowering my upper lip and (to my ears at least) it sounds almost the same if not identical, but I have to do it consciously and it feels unnatural.

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago
[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

W still leaves an opening tho

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They're probably pronouncing it as "Double-U"...

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

well it only touches at the B sound and we already had B so...

[–] bennel@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

as a phoneme, it's a bilabial approximant - meaning the lips form the sound by moving close but not touching and then parting again

compare to the palatal approixmant /y/ formed by the root of the tongue performing a similar action with the soft palate.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Like ... Have you ever read a word with w in it?

I kinda know what you are getting at - if you dictate a word by pronouncing each letter separately you need to add stuff to each one to make it stand out - but Jesus Christ, what a question.

Hodoubleu is the doublueather today? Only a fedoubleu oubleuhite clouds in a clear blue sky.

Thanks for making me laugh!

Edit: in German it is pronounced "we", with the e like in ketchup.

[–] tan00k@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I vote we change it in English to be pronounced like in German. It always bugged me that it's the only multisyllabic letter name. Along the same lines, we should rename seven to sev.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The time save when pronouncing "www" is incredible. 🙃

[–] Turun@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

I sometimes like reading or listening to stories of people scamming scammers. He used this exact thing to really confuse the scammer.

"Please type in double u double double u...."
"Alright, I typed in double u double u double..... It says page not found" (i.e. uuuuuu)

[–] Turun@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In German y is not pronounced as "why", but instead as "Ypsilon". You win some you lose some I guess.

More infuriating is "e" - it's pronounced as "I" ffs! But when in a word only if it's the first letter or something. Otherwise it's pronounced as "e" as it rightfully should be!

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

just like in "We"

You don't pronounce "we" as "double ue" do you?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't say "no opening", it just says "lips touch". My lips can touch without completely closing.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

ok but for "we" the opening is large enough for them to not touch at all

[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bruh what are you smoking? My lips don't touch for W. They don't even move half the time.

[–] lugal@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

They do for double u

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

I get 6, yours plus F and Y.