History is gay AF. That's why they only teach the marketed versions in school. Even the bible... Pretty sure Lucifer and God just had a sloppy breakup.

If I can't have you no one can! Leviticus write this down!!

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

even the devil was an angel

[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Cast out because he saw God wasn't doing what God itself was preaching.

I've come to learn angels are actually just demons.

They are both just one in the same,

Talking bullshit for their own personal gains.

And "...if angles had fingers connected to strings,

Then we would be puppets, and love would be king.

War wouldn't be a word with any worth,

They made earth on hell instead of heaven on earth."

(Quote part is from Ancient Astronauts - Oblivion - The Poet Azeem is the lyricist.)

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

Pretty sure angels and demons were originally other mesopotanian gods and demigods before it went monotheistic.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Satan isn't real, biblically

[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not too savvy with religious shit. What do you mean and do you have a source to link to?

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

I'd take a look at @Vncredleader@hexbear.net's reply to my comment

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

??? There's certainly a Satan-like figure (Ha-Satan) in the Bible, specifically in the Books of Job and Zechariah. Many Jews interpret that figure as a metaphor, like the "idea" of evil, not a fallen angel type dude, but Satan is definitely real and in the Bible.

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, though even then the idea of a singular figure in opposition to God is not present at all in the Talmud. And the earlier Hebrew books of the Bible have no supernatural satans, which is translated as "adversary"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sYhbtk8jJc

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is what I was meaning yeah, "satan" wasn't meant to be an individual antagonist like a modern supervillain, more like the antithesis of the goodness of god, like a shadow is to light that casts it. There is no shadow, there is only light and places where it does not go

though I'm no christian scholar I'm mostly just regurgitating a video essay I saw like a year ago

[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Wasn't there a "Satan" or "Accuser" figure in the story of Job? Not in opposition to God, but tasked by God with testing man's faith or something? I going off half-remembered stuff I read years ago.

Edit: nevermind I misread the previous reply somebody already mentioned Job