IMF loans are cheaper. Every person with two braincells will realize corrupt officials will take the chinese loans with higher interest rates because of the bribes. A 90 year maintenance contract is nonsense and you cant defend it.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMF and World Bank loans in years past have had strict rules regarding economic liberalization and cutting government spending.

IMF loans are cheaper. Every person with two braincells will realize corrupt officials will take the Chinese loans with higher interest rates because of the bribes.

[citation needed]

[–] fedfedfedd@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like how you wont comment on the maintenance contracts.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So... No citation, right?

[–] fedfedfedd@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://time.com/6266658/china-emerges-major-global-lender/#:~:text=China%20typically%20offers%20rescue%20loans,the%20IMF%2C%20the%20study%20said.

First result in Google. You cant even Google so im pretty sure you dont know what the hell you are talking about lol.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rescue loans are not the type of loans being used to build these railway networks lol. It's pretty funny watching someone not understand the problem they're talking about.

Also, the US fed rate is 5% right now... That means loaning money to the safest and most stable economy in the world pays 5% today. Even in your (misguided) context, 5% is a fucking bargain.

[–] fedfedfedd@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rescue loans are not the type of loans being used to build these railway networks lol.

Do you even know how IMF rescue loans work? Did you try Google buddy?

I wont even entertain your dumbass ramble about different countries because we arent talking about that.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great, so you neither understand project funding nor interest rates. Good to know.

[–] fedfedfedd@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so you neither understand project funding nor interest rates

You cant even provide facts. Stop arguing in bad faith. Now go schizo post about US loans.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A rescue loan is not a loan used to build infrastructure. They're used to cover for existing debt, not to take on new debt.

The interest rate of loans is dependent on the international market. A loan with an interest rate of 5% is charity because China could get that exact same return from the US (which is much more stable, etc. etc.)

A 5% interest rate loan isn't predatory in this economic environment. It's a fucking donation. Ever heard of risk-adjusted returns?

[–] fedfedfedd@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A rescue loan is not a loan used to build infrastructure. They’re used to cover for existing debt, not to take on new debt.

A loan with an interest rate of 5% is charity

[citation needed]

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's some reading for you:

https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/imf-and-covid19/COVID-Lending-Tracker

https://www.adamsstreetpartners.com/insights/covid19-rescue-finance/#:~:text=Rescue%20Finance%20Overview,credit%20and%20pureplay%20distressed%20credit.

Rescue loans are used to service existing debt. That's literally the entire point.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/riskadjustedreturn.asp

A risk-adjusted return is a calculation of the profit or potential profit from an investment that takes into account the degree of risk that must be accepted in order to achieve it. The risk is measured in comparison to that of a virtually risk-free investment—usually U.S. Treasuries.

These are BASIC concepts. Come on, man.

[–] fedfedfedd@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.ml/comment/1508218

We were talking about this. I said IMF loans are cheaper than china loans. And you proved me correct so the next best thing was nitpicking my comments? Who cares if a loan directly or indirectly benefits a nation.

Go grab some tea, revisit your nonsense and write a proper reply. Im not going to do the same thing as last time in which you refused to read the article everyone except you was discussing.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

African countries aren't taking IMF loans to fund this project lol. That's the misunderstanding I think you have. They would be taking World Bank loans.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

My home country has one of those loans, and I have no idea whether it's beneficial or not since it's classified for 30 years as is the Russian nuclear power plant contracts or the money we spend on our oligarchs.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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