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Almost an oxymoron at this point but it's free with a Pixel phone so I had to at least try it and see how bad it is. Privacy issues aside... it's down all the damn time.
Yeah remove that Pixel bullshit and install GrapheneOS please.
Use MullvadVPN or anything else with an actual FOSS app.
Tailscale's android client should be foss
Wireguard is foss
~~Outline is foss~~ damn, it's nodr vpn
So, some of the apps from the screenshot are legit
Protonvpn is foss
Serverside isnt (iirc)
Only bad part about graphene is that you can’t use google pay
~~You can. But in a secure way that is also privacy respecting.~~
I use grapheneos and from what I can tell they are wrong. It has NFC support but google pay requires additional permissions and has not been implemented yet. I think other NFC payment apps work but I don't know much about that.
Oh pay yeah this requires Google Play Integrity API verification I think.
So it will never work on non Google certified Operating Systems
I have a pixel 7 pro and I didn't know it came with Google VPN either.
Same for me. First thing i did after buying a pixel was install GrapheneOS. However i felt like it was to locked down in the name of security so i switched to rooted lineageOS
Could you explain what you didn't like about Graphene in detail?
Do you run Google services on Lineage? The last time I read about it, it was a massive pain with LSPosed and a bunch of modules.
I don't run google services but afaik there is just an extra zip called "gapps.zip" that you flash after lineage itself
My problem was a lack of freedom: i couldn't change some settings that i wanted and also i couldn't give gadget bridge the necessary permissions to function properly. I need gadget bridge for my pine time smart watch
I use gadgetbridge on grapheneos with my pinetime. You need to enable restricted settings for gadgetbridge which is annoying but then it works.
Are you running the version of Lineage with GMS installed, perchance? Lineage doesn't bundle GMS by default which makes it somewhat painful to get things working (especially since SafetyNet is deprecated, that was the last technology I had read about a while back).
Thanks for the input on Graphene
Currently im not using any google services except vanced microg i currently plan on using the proper microg to get google play working. Afaik there is a "LineageOS for MicroG" but not sure wether that's official or even up to date.
Also "you can't just say perchance!"
My apologies, I should go back to school with a better teacher
Holy hell!