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An in-depth look at the star crossed lovers we didn't get to see in DS9 including interviews with the cast and crew about why it didn't happen. Includes some details about the origin of slash fic

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[–] startrekexplained@startrek.website 21 points 1 year ago (50 children)

But they were both heterosexual in the actual show. Unless the implication is they were in the closet, which isnt a good implication

[–] BobKerman3999@feddit.it 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The powers that be didn't want it, so they played it low key

[–] startrekexplained@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't believe they did want it that way though. Ron Moore said way back in 2001, 2002 or so that the DS9 writing staff didn't care at all about LGBT issues at the time, and so I find it hard to believe they were planning to have a gay relationship on DS9.

[–] BalooUriza@social.tulsa.ok.us 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@startrekexplained @BobKerman3999 Doesn't seem that hard to me. It's entirely possible an entire room of writers would have considered existing apolitical and wanted to cast a gay couple as not even being remarkable, even back then.

I was also in the closet back then. Mostly because there's people out there who want to make existing political, and want me dead now because of it.

[–] startrekexplained@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess I'm just less charitable because the DS9 writers did admit (I'll have to find the quotes later) they just didn't care about queer issues back then. As an openly queer person myself, I wish Star Trek back then was a trail blazer but it wasn't.

[–] dumples@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do have a good point. We shouldn't give credit to almost and maybes the same credit as actual content. Regardless of what happened afterwards but it's still interesting to see what could have been

[–] BalooUriza@social.tulsa.ok.us 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@startrekexplained Let me clarify. I believe the writers wanted to openly ship them, and didn't because Paramount was trying to make it a political issue. I firmly believe existing is not political and trying to make it that way is pretty cowardly.

I'd need to see some evidence beyond jokes in a documentary made 20 years after the show ended.

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