this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2023
67 points (86.8% liked)

Star Trek Social Club

10678 readers
414 users here now

r/startrek: The Next Generation

Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...

Maybe a little slash fic.


New to Star Trek and wondering where to start?


Rules

1 Be constructiveAll posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.


2 Be welcomingIt is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.


3 Be truthfulAll posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.


4 Be niceIf a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.


5 SpoilersUtilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episode. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.


6 Keep on-topicAll busmittions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books, etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/Quarks.


7 MetaQuestions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.


Upcoming Episodes

Date Episode Title
11-28 LD 5x07 "Fully Dilated"
12-05 LD 5x08 "Upper Decks"
12-12 LD 5x09 "Fissure Quest"
12-19 LD 5x10 "The New Next Generation"
01-24 Film "Section 31"

Episode Discussion Archive


In Production

Strange New Worlds (TBA)

Section 31 (2025-01-24)

Starfleet Academy (TBA)


In Development

Untitled theatrical film

Untitled comedy series


Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.

Allied Discord Server


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

An in-depth look at the star crossed lovers we didn't get to see in DS9 including interviews with the cast and crew about why it didn't happen. Includes some details about the origin of slash fic

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] startrekexplained@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't believe they did want it that way though. Ron Moore said way back in 2001, 2002 or so that the DS9 writing staff didn't care at all about LGBT issues at the time, and so I find it hard to believe they were planning to have a gay relationship on DS9.

[–] BalooUriza@social.tulsa.ok.us 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@startrekexplained @BobKerman3999 Doesn't seem that hard to me. It's entirely possible an entire room of writers would have considered existing apolitical and wanted to cast a gay couple as not even being remarkable, even back then.

I was also in the closet back then. Mostly because there's people out there who want to make existing political, and want me dead now because of it.

[–] startrekexplained@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess I'm just less charitable because the DS9 writers did admit (I'll have to find the quotes later) they just didn't care about queer issues back then. As an openly queer person myself, I wish Star Trek back then was a trail blazer but it wasn't.

[–] dumples@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do have a good point. We shouldn't give credit to almost and maybes the same credit as actual content. Regardless of what happened afterwards but it's still interesting to see what could have been

[–] BalooUriza@social.tulsa.ok.us 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@startrekexplained Let me clarify. I believe the writers wanted to openly ship them, and didn't because Paramount was trying to make it a political issue. I firmly believe existing is not political and trying to make it that way is pretty cowardly.

I'd need to see some evidence beyond jokes in a documentary made 20 years after the show ended.