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Obviously sympathetic to the mothers position here. However, based on my limited understanding of how this stuff works, if content is being viewed on 'the dark web' it likely wouldn't be obvious to internet providers, nor would a kid who's savvy enough to be on the 'the dark web' in the first place be really prevented from finding a work around to any potential block in place.

I'm a parent. This stuff scares the crap out of me, but I'm not sure we can actually legislate this stuff out of existence.

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[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It appears that Google are now investigating it, but only a couple of days ago it was being reported that there was another secret browser in Android which bypassed all parental and system security.

https://matan-h.com/google-has-a-secret-browser-hidden-inside-the-settings/

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

secret browser makes it sound so illicit. This looks like the default webview implementation that is able to be accessed after a series of pretty niche and complicated steps. Something that should be looked at and closed obviously, but this type of language is clickbait 101 and actually unhelpful for the discourse.

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then you should actually read it.

It's not the default webview, and it now has an open issue with Google

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes my friend, it is the default webview. That explains the bare bones look to it, the back button functionality, and the history or lack of. The default webview on android isn't a full fledged browser and isn't meant to be.

and it now has an open issue with Google

This is literally meaningless. You should see the amount of shite users raise on the issue tracker. What you, or the author, should do is link to the issue in question.

I note that the comments on Hacker News also aren't favourable to this.

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you okay?

I note that the comments on Hacker News also aren't favourable to this.

Apart from being upvoted by an above average amount, the vast majority of comments talk about adjacent topics such as "I remember similar things with the NT login screen" or "WTF Google, bypassing the device restrictions is a bad thing."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39226754

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Are you okay?

I'm great thanks. How're you?

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 6 points 9 months ago

It's not a secret browser, it's the system browser. Most apps do not have a browser to view web pages, they use the system one (eg to display terms and conditions pages). The exploit here involved someone accessing such a page and sidestepping into another, because the page had links away, allowing a Google search or something and avoiding restrictions that were only applied to the main browser app.

This is more of a failure in parental control features not being fully comprehensive. The story is also much older than a couple days.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's such an obscure vulnerability that I highly doubt any significant amount of kids would know about it, if any.

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Err, as soon as a way to bypass parental settings is found it will be shared far and wide with those who would be impacted by it.