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Something being natural makes it more sustainable.
Depending on how much meat you're producing, you can do it in a manner which isn't that damaging to the environment. Chickens don't require that much food but they produce enough to feed a family, and cows can live off of grass if you don't try and produce too many of them.
Killing ourselves would be a great way to do that, yes. Humanity is the world's single most prolific and destructive invasive species.
Well yes, obviously, if I was less moralistic then I'd be able to be content with much more evil in this world, however, some evil can be greatly reduced without inconveniencing civilization very much (unlike removing meat from the human diet), so there's no need to be content with it.
This does not disprove my main point that humans evolved to eat meat.
Yes, that's why I wish to go hunt deer or something. The meat will probably taste better and procurement will be much more fulfilling than your average grocery trip because the thrill of the hunt is what our minds and bodies long for.
It is the biological imperative of all living creatures to be as lazy as possible.
The point is to show that your logic on who it is and isn't ok to make fun of are easy to distort.
The reason why you'd be removed from the premises is because the audience doesn't like your joke, which is what I'm proposing we use as the arbiter of comedy here instead of what direction you're punching in. And if you did somehow make a funny joke about Jews, which I've seen examples of, then people will probably laugh at it.
Then why do we still make fun of them? According to your logic, it'd be considered punching down, since non-offending pedophiles objectively do no harm and are a marginalized group. The answer, of course, is because they can be a source of good jokes, and because you don't hear them complaining about it, or anyone complaining on their behalf.
I don't think corporations care about the first part, and the way they actually get the second part is by feeding people.
We don't need to remove the animal entirely from the equation in order to have a good-enough supply chain.
There already is, the fact that anyone starves is a failure of logistics, not the fact that we eat meat.