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Nearly 3 Billion Birds Gone (www.birds.cornell.edu)

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A new study finds steep, long-term losses across virtually all groups of birds in the U.S. and Canada

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[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Avoid Pesticides

Look for organic food choices and cut out some of the 1 billion pounds of pesticides used in the U.S. each year.

Organic food isn't necessarily pesticide free, it just uses "organic" pesticides, which aren't necessarily any better.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More than 1 billion pounds of pesticides are applied in the United States each year. The continent’s most widely used insecticides, called neonicotinoids or “neonics,” are lethal to birds and to the insects that birds consume. Common weed killers used around homes, such as 2, 4-D and glyphosate (used in Roundup), can be toxic to wildlife, and glyphosate has been declared a probable human carcinogen

We are past beyond the point where we can make arguments based on "necessarily". We cannot keep applying the same method. Those bird did not vanish for no reason. At least we know organic pesticides better than the endless new synthetic pesticides that take years to analyze after they have done their damage to the environment.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Point went right over your head it seems. Toxins are toxins, regardless if they're organic or synthetic.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I expect much better from this sub than someone throwing more smokescreen at the problem.

The cigarette industry threw millions of dollars into slowing the research, into seeding doubt here and there, because each month of legal inaction from the government was one more full month of business for them. We know it, it's documented. Slowing the regulations is their business now.

The endgame of your "which aren't necessarily any better" is nothing else than pleading inaction because we are only sure at 99% and not 100%. So while you spend your time searching for this last percent I say we go organic.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You continue to ignore my point. I'm not defending synthetic pesticides. So stop the straw manning please, especially when I literally used the tobacco industry studies as an example in another comment chain yesterday.

[–] Pegatron@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

We shouldn't be using organic pesticides either.