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The anti-abortion plan ready for Trump on Day One
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People who understand politics better than I do. Can he really just walk into the office on day one and write an executive order outlawing it nation wide? Say he does get elected, is there anything that would stop it?
Short Answer: No
Longer Answer: If Donald Trump gets back into office the people around him are going to work at lightning speed to dismantle every single system or institution that prevents the Executive branch from asserting unchecked control over the government.
Who is going to stop them? The courts have already proven ineffective in being able to reign in this kind of authoritarianism because frankly many members of the judiciary support what he is doing. They are working to institute a permanent state of minority rule in this country, and nobody is coming to save us from ourselves if/when that happens. The only solution is a rolling general strike, and organized civil disobedience. It will be fucking chaos. However bad you think it can get, it will be worse than that.
I'll give you all a preview of bad because it needs to be said:
He will start shooting at protestors as soon as he feels heated threats to his position.
The army will be called in against the insurrectionists (ironic, no?) because he'll ignore any law against doing that.
He is already claiming total immunity to do and order as he pleases, it's deeply woven in "his" current plan. "Crack open the laws, we'll fix what needs fixing when the dust of our enemies falls to the ground".
He'll implement a committee of oversight consisting of family members and trustees, they'll be holding the strings of the various branches, military, security, intelligence etc. and only report back to Trump.
If the boss orders that it's good: all the yes-men will do it, no one will even dare pull on an emergency brake... Sueing the white house then for breaking the law, I don't think any such a case will even be heard in 6 years or longer, by that time he (and his family/friends) will the supreme leader and far beyond any lawbook to grasp on.
And when it all happened one can lament in the streets "oh mah constitution, it's all broken" but the newly installed government/overlords will laugh it off and wave with a "national security good for the country" blanket and be done with it.
People forgot the lesson of how Hitler actually came into power ... Killing his political rivals (or having them killed by henchmen installed in the country) This did not take years, it was a done deal in mere months. After which no one dared to oppose him.
All laws broken were ignored or dismissed under either "none of us did this" or "this was a limitation to the country"
So, don't laugh off his threat of "Day 1 dictator" ... Take it very very serious ... He's even vague enough with it to mean "ONLY 1 day" or "STARTING day 1"
One last thought, if you meet a crazed guy on the streets, and he tells you with a vicious smile "I am going to stab you, stab you so bad, and no one will blame me" how do you respond? Why is the response to Trump's threats any different?
I really wish more people understood this. It's absolutely terrifying, and so many people just won't vote because they don't think it affects them.
Maybe 50 years of 'lesser evil' thats grown into a huge evil wasnt the best plan.
Ah yes, it's the democrats fault. Holy shit can you have a good faith argument for fucking once.
I'm glad I tagged that person. Don't waste your time with them. The answer is no, they cannot have a good faith discussion.
your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith.
Yes it is liberals fault, they were the ones that thought lesser evil exists. They continued to believe that shit for decades, and now their small incremental pieces of lesser evil is so large that the best options they have are people like Trump and Biden. 2 huge piles of shit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
It is mostly because of this. I highly suggest looking into it. Project 2025 is the public plan conservatives have for if Republicans win this year, it's not some rumor or underground information.
That is utterly terrifying. It’s literally a coup…
No, not a simple blanket ban. But as the article mentions they can make it more difficult to access. The article referenced tying Title X funds to not counseling, referring, or performing abortions. Trump did this in his first term, leading to nearly 200,000 unwanted pregnancies, according to the article.
The FDA could disapprove abortion drugs, meaning all abortions would have to be surgical. So on and so on, every federal agency limits access to abortion.
Our best weapon against that is broadcasting loud and clear that this is what they want to do on Day One.