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[–] jack@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

this dude better bow the fuck out quick

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago (10 children)

I dunno, seeing this only makes me more resolved to get out and vote for Biden, because I am really fucking terrified of Trump winning again.

Note: I am not American so I can’t actually vote, but I am really scared of another Trump presidency so Biden will still have my critical support if that means slowing down fascism for another few years.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

America is already fascist regardless of who the president is. Liberals are really afraid that Trump is going to usher in some kind of new regime where he bans elections or whatever. Yeah if he had that kind of clout and power he would have done it already. Capital would have already done this if it's what they wanted.

Capital doesn't need to. The country is already run by cops and money. There's nothing left to conquer and no leftist opposition to crush.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

America is already fascist regardless of who the president is

100-com stalin-point this is it right here. Libs are afraid of something they don't understand has already happened

[–] axont@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

yeah that's the other thing, they think Trump is gonna suspend elections? Our elections don't matter and even if Trump tried that he'd probably piss off absolutely everyone. He's Donald Trump, the laziest man alive. He's not going to do anything that would require actual coordination and planning. And anyone he hires is going to be too concerned with their career and book deals to give a shit about creating the New Conservative American Empire or whatever the fuck liberals think will happen. Trump couldn't even get his own vice-president, whose career is basically over, to do a ceremonial coup

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Exactly. I have no clue what it is that libs are imaging will happen. We know exactly what Trump will do as president because it already happened. It'll be like that. Things will get worse, excactly like they will if Biden is re-elected.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

if that means slowing down fascism for another few years

brump i got some bad news for you on that front Jack

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago

please say sike

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

full support for our voter fraud troops rat-salute-2

[–] jack@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

Weird, how did :PSL: get 3.5 million votes in Ohio?

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Also not American, both trump and Biden are genocidal human garbage, and most of the shit coming in the states is caused by systemic forces rather than great men. However, I think the election of trump would accelerate the loss of American soft power abroad because of how deranged he makes other lib world leaders/elites.

As you've said elsewhere, Biden has been a more geopolitically ruthless president than trump was. I think the machine will be less efficient if it has to change gears to a trump presidency than if Biden gets a second term to be The Smiler.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I dont believe I'd call Biden the more competent one in foreign policy at this moment. Given that he's currently abandoning Ukraine to sponsor the most blatant genocide in recent history. In the process he's simultaneously setting US international reputation on fire and getting international trade routes blockaded.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Sure, I meant he's efficient at operating the machine because way more American bureaucrats suffered trump derangement syndrome than Biden derangement syndrome. Also, see @Kaplya@hexbear.net's posts on hexbear about him as a ruthless operator that has absolutely eaten Europe's lunch the last four years.

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

You should get more involved locally

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

Hexbearians tends to forget all the white nationalists and right wing militias that were super active during Trump. Thats what was really scary about him. Every racist in american was suddenly emboldened and felt entitled to do violence. Maybe their a spent force. Maybe the FBI really did tamp it all back down. But I'm not eager to see a sober alt-right reprisal that learned some lessons.

That said I'm not to concerned about Trump himself in the oval office. The worst things he did were do what any normal republican would do. Frankly he might've handled the Israeli genocide better. I dont think he'd hesitate to pull Bibi's leash and say "this is bad for business". Bibi would probably thank him and ask for him to yank harder next time.

We really just need one of these parties to complexly collapse.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

The main difference between the two is that trump is a rude and obvious oaf.