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Review: Framework’s Laptop 16 is unique, laudable, fascinating, and flawed (arstechnica.com)
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[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The port in my old XPS 15 ~~can be~~ has been replaced in 10 minutes with a screwdriver, with a $5 replacement port. I honestly don't even love the laptop but I can't fault it's repairability.

My point is while this framework laptop is insanely cool, I don't think that repairability is as huge an advantage as it's made out to be. Beats a macbook I guess, but for a lot of mainstream laptops the only difference in repairability is needing a screwdriver set and I little more time (negligible imo since I only need to repair/upgrade maybe every 2-3 years. maybe)

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

You're lucky your XPS'es port is replaceable without a mainboard swap. Is this true for all ports?

Also the repairability comparison with mainstream machines lacks a crucial point. The availability of genuine parts and for reasonable prices. A Framework battery runs me about 60-70 bucks. A genuine battery for my ThinkPad has typically been closer to $150. If I could even find one.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Hold on, the battery's another thing I had to replace. Let me find how much I paid.

Edit: I paid a little less than $50 on eBay from ebl. They're a reputable seller, I bought rechargeable AAA's from them more than five years ago and they're still kicking

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

**ebl. **They’re a reputable seller, I bought rechargeable AAA’s from them more than five years ago and they’re still kicking

I have a ton of EBL batteries. And my reality was confirmed when Project Farm did a "one year later" follow-up, which confirmed what I was experiencing: EBL batteries are garbage. LOL

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I haven't done any real tests so I guess I'll defer to you on that. It's been more than three years of daily use since installing the laptop battery though, so I'd say the fact that I haven't noticed a significant drop in battery life means that $50 is no less then a fair price.

Ok I just looked up oem, damn I'm cheap lol: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-6-cell-97-wh-lithium-ion-replacement-battery-for-select-laptops/apd/gpm03/pc-accessories

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No not all ports, just power and and auxilary, but I honestly can't recall a single time that I've lost a usb port.

Here's the (excellent) repair docs if you're interested: https://dl.dell.com/topicspdf/xps-15-9560-laptop_Setup-Guide_en-us.pdf

My old latitude from 2011 is similarly easy to repair, it's running a jellyfin server rn.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

I've lost USB-A on a ThinkPad and a miniDP. The USB went from use, the miniDP got destroyed in an accident.