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Hi all, I’m new here on Lemmy and had never even heard of Matrix until I logged into Beehaw. I see frequent references to the “enshitification” of Discord, but I’m a bit OOTL on that.

What’s your preference between Matrix and Discord?

Any particular reasons or just a preference?

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[–] leecalvin@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly a forum is much better than the endless stream of live chat that is basically Discord and Matrix, et al.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

for a lot of purposes yeah--in the example i used though it'd be a lot more about just having stability of community than anything, rather than some objection to live chatting. there's very, very little cost to self-hosting a small forum and we're a community of <100 people who mostly grew up on forums, so it's a fairly natural switch to make.

[–] leecalvin@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My main problem with live chat is its ephemeral nature. So you can end up having people asking the same thing that someone else asked but the previous answer is buried/lost. Forums are good because you can index and search.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I think it has it's place, like, "we, a select and small group of people are doing this thing together right now and need someplace to chat about it in real time" or for very small groups of friends/family as an alternative to occasional group text messaging.

But, when I see FOSS teams use it as their primary mode of communication with each other and users, with multiple conversations going in parallel and talking over each other, I'm dumbfounded. How do they find that productive?

[–] V4uban@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Hard agree. It's like Eternal September but on steroids

[–] damn@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm really glad Discourse has caught on because of how nice its UI/UX is. Although I've seen complaints in the Arch Linux community that it's not as lightweight or no-javascript friendly as more traditional forum software.

[–] leecalvin@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

UI/UX is incredibly important in on-boarding and retaining users.