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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Have they given up on their “Passwords are insecure, use this 4 digit pin instead” push?

[–] Flying_Hellfish@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not entirely, but now MS, and a lot of other companies, are pushing passkeys. I still prefer password + hardware 2fa but it's safer than people reusing the same password everywhere.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I am a fan of passkeys. Particularly because they essentially function as hardware 2fa, except they’re the only factor, which isn’t as big of a problem because it’s not something you can steal in a service breach like passwords. I’ve also noticed that even when using passkeys, most sites let you force a TOTP code as well anyway.

[–] Flying_Hellfish@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Very true, the big issue with them is a lot of popular hardware keys, including the yubikeys that I have, are limited to the number passkeys they can store (yubikey is 25 unique). Luckily password managers are starting to support them, but now you're back to having a strong password + hardware 2FA to store those passkeys anyway.

I do like TOTP or just hardware 2FA as a backup for my passkeys. What I really can't stand is sties that only offer SMS as 2FA, it makes me more angry than it probably should.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

iPhones natively support passkeys, so at the very least the iOS user base can easily use them. Not sure about Android though.

[–] Specal@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I just use their Authenticator app out of convenience, I get a notification when I login through it and it asks me to input the correct number given by the app, a 2 digit number.