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Four-times-indicted former president Donald Trump has been successfully selling white Christian nostalgia, racism and xenophobia to his base. However, the Public Religion Research Institute’s massive poll of 6,616 participants suggests that what works with his base might pose an insurmountable problem with Gen Z teens and Gen Z adults (who are younger than 25).

Demographically, this cohort of voters bears little resemblance to Trump’s older, whiter, more religious followers. “In addition to being the most racially and ethnically diverse generation in our nation’s history, Gen Z adults also identify as LGBTQ at much higher rates than older Americans,” the PRRI poll found. “Like millennials, Gen Zers are also less likely than older generations to affiliate with an established religion.”

Those characteristics suggest Gen Z will favor a progressive message that incorporates diversity and opposes government imposition of religious views. Indeed, “Gen Z adults (21%) are less likely than all generational groups except millennials (21%) to identify as Republican.” Though 36 percent of Gen Z adults identify as Democrats, their teenage counterparts are more likely to be independents (51 percent) than older generations.

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[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s really an incredible data point. I am the king of the youth vote skeptics but, 2022 was a great year for young voters. I am cautiously optimistic that a generation of regular voters is coming of age. Most of what is wrong with our democracy can be helped greatly by broader engagement and participation. So much of the bullshit only works because nobody can be bothered to show up to vote for any office other than the president.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 35 points 9 months ago (4 children)

My mom was saying how ridiculous it was to think of lowering the voting age to 16.

I said we don’t seem to have a problem with requiring them to become parents at that age, so I fail to see the issue. If you’re okay with forced-birth initiatives, how can you oppose voting?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

A 16 year old has more at stake than an 80 year old

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The common refrain I hear from older voters is that 16 and 17 year olds age idiots and don't understand the world. There are a lot of problems with this argument. Among them:

  • 1 or 2 years at that age does not magically result in most people becoming world-wise and informed. Many 16 and 17 year olds have just as good a grasp on voting factors as 18 year olds.

  • Like anything, perspective, awareness, and seeing both the bigger picture and the nuanced details often comes at very different times for very different people. To disenfranchise all 16 and 17 year olds just because a minority might be immature in grossly unfair.

  • Plenty of the older people who argue 16/17 year olds are clueless idiots, and the same people who keep voting for objectively horrible politicians, who blindly follow a political party like it's a sports team, and who vote against their own interests due to gullibly lapping up flagrantly bias and false 'news'. Their judgement is seriously flawed.

As a Gen-Xer I say let the 16 and 17 year olds vote too. Their voices should be heard.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I agree with you. And not for nothing, but a six year old can know that taking kids from their mom's, putting kids in cages, and drowning refugees on barbedwire fences, is not a good direction. They can understand pollution and who is responsible for it, and the results.

[–] gac11@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I think a lot of young teens will just vote how their parents tell them unfortunately. And we're breeding dumber and dumber kids by cutting education anyway possible in Southern states, so they'll just pile on the maga wagon

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

As someone who cares about that, it can be another difficult part of being a parent. My older kid will be voting for the first time this year and knows how important it is. He knows all the things I think are important about voting. However it can be tough figuring out how to draw the line between sharing my opinion and things I think important, vs pressuring him to vote the same way

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

Or teens may just vote flippantly, without actually considering what's at stake, so if Democrats were expecting that to lead to a surge of support, it may not even help them. I've known some kids of immigrants who said they wanted to vote for Trump because they thought he was funny, seemingly without actually knowing a single thing about Trump's time in office (apart from the antics). Being the kids of immigrants, their parents would probably be negatively impacted by a Trump presidency, so they're even potentially voting against their own interests.